My confession
Then on a random Thursday morning, my boss called me into his office at 9am. I knew it was not going to be good when I saw the head of “human resources” (nicknamed the Hatchet Man by my buddies) already waiting in there for me…
They told me that I was being let go. Effective immediately. No severance money, no nothing. “Your services are no longer needed” and some BS about the economy going south and dragging the company down with it, etc etc etc. I missed a lot of what they were saying because I was in absolute shock.
Then, they took my security key that got me into the buildings and the Hatchet Man walked me downstairs and out the door. They didn’t even let me clean out my locker, they said they’d mail home my personal stuff including the the photos of my kids I kept in my locker.
Just like that, and after years of doing good work, I was literally walked out of the building and had no job and no paycheck.
Let me tell you, it was a mighty uncomfortable conversation when I got home and had to explain what happened to Michelle. Totally embarrassing and really scary at the same time. Thank God she was totally understanding and supportive. Quite a great lady, I am a lucky guy.
Our income went overnight from “getting by OK” to O. And we had the kids and the house payment and the car payment and the cable bill and a dozen other bills that come as regular as the sun sets.
Not a fun time, believe you me.
I know a lot of people are hurting out there because of the economy, and the truth is I understand completely because I’ve been there too.
It was right then, when things were the worst and when we really didn’t know how we’d make things work, that I decided to NEVER AGAIN be so reliant and dependent on others for supporting my family. I promised that I’d be more independent and be more in control of my life, not at the whim of my employer or the government or the bank or whoever.
We took a hard look at our finances and cut back on a ton of “nice to have” things that we’d gotten used to over the years. And we decided that we needed to sell our house and move to a much cheaper part of the country because we could no longer afford the mortgage payment to the bank.
We made the move down South and then really started down the path to becoming more self-reliant. Michelle planted a vegetable garden, started to sew and knit, and picked up part-time work. And that’s when I began to seriously experiment with solar power as a practical way of saving money and getting more control.
It was a difficult 9 months, but we eventually got back on our feet. We ate through our savings and learned to live with a lot less, but we survived and came out the other side. We’re doing a lot better these days and we know we were tested and came through.
These days, Michelle and I are a LOT less reliant on Corporate America. I started my own small business at home and now I’m responsible for making things happen, and I’m not controlled by a Fat Cat Boss who played more golf than he did do actual work. We grow a lot of our own vegetables in our backyard garden and we’re thinking about raising our own chickens for eggs and meat. We simplified our life quite a bit. We use and buy a lot less Stuff.
And it feels great to know that no matter what happens with the economy or government (and Lord knows there’s a lot of bad stuff happening these days), our family will still have enough free, 100%-clean electricity for us to get by on.
I guess if there was one piece of advice I could give you from my story… something that I believe so strongly and is so near & dear to my heart… it is that I’d really encourage you to think about simple ways in which you can BECOME MORE SELF-RELIANT, starting today.
Whether it’s putting in a vegetable garden, or starting a part-time business out of your home to supplement your income, or just finding easy ways to “do with less”, I promise you that you’ll be very glad.
You may never face the shock that my family did (and I pray that you never do), but whatever your circumstances and how things play out in the future, you’ll be glad that you took back some control.
Thanks for reading, and speak soon.
Frank Bates
Well Frank that’s a real sad story. Though I don’t think you’re all that broke now selling those glorified k rations to the point where it takes you 7-14 business days to get a fellows order out after you’ve taken his money. And not have enough time to even send out anything other then a form letter a week later saying you’re gonna be later. I’d ask for my money back but that could take months as slow as you are. Tell ya what compadre, I’m giving you 15 days for my order to be delivered. That’s 15 days from when you took my money.And you’d best hope nothing happens be that would make me wish I had them. Cause I’m gonna start heading your way at that point and I ain’t gonna be none to friendly when I call you out in the street. I’m beginning to believe you’re a damn Democrat, a liberal or a millinial. A four flusher at least. If I could afford it I’d say it to your face. Ain’t no threat Frank, before you go down that road. I do not make them. But then,my words good.
Thanks for the info Frank. I live just outside Calgary Alberta and have a fairly similar story. Presently I facilitate Disaster Preparedness clinics around Alberta, mostly to the horse community and I promote you company throughout my day long clinic. I look forward to taking your 72 hour and 3 month kits to our presentations and I hope you get lots of business from our promotions.
All the best and thanks for your hard work.
Your Survival Packs come to us at a time we are trying to live frugally. We have a lot of credit card debt and are slowly paying down that debt. We have begun a garden and hope it will be a success. As we clear up some of our debt, we definitely will be ordering more Survival Food. Part of our story (Dale and Sandy), we met and married in Commerce TX. (we both worked for ETSU which is now an A & M college. We bought a Motor Home and moved into it with my daughter who had just finished First Grade. We travelled and worked for 34 years. Cadi went to ETSU and took a job with G.E. She lives in Irving, Tx. We were living at Senior Retirement Village for 55 and older. They were going to raise rent to more than we could afford so we went to Brady (45 min. drive from Brownwood) and got an apt. with Brady Housing Authority. We had just gotten the furniture moved in when an old friend called us. (She is a minister who has a Gypsy Vanner she stands on and sings then preaches.) She said I saw on Facebook you are moving to Brady. I have a house I have bought and I am just about finished with the inside painting. God told me this morning I should call you and get you to move into the house and take care of it and the yard and 11 pecan trees. We moved a 2nd time in 2 weeks. The yard is 1/4th of a full block. There are 3 other houses on this block! There was all the appliances, a huge BBQ grill, a long table with 4 chairs and umbrella on the stone patio, a carport and a garden area.
We are so blessed by this, but paying for 2 moves took all our ready cash. We will be fine eventually, but it has us worried about how to pay bills (As Usual). That is part of our story. But it tells you when I could not take advantage of the $401.00 3-month supply of Survival Food.
I hear you. Same thing with me. i was downsized and lost my job of 22 years and in time had to file bankruptcy and it cost me my marriage of 33 years. TRUST ME i KNOW
Hi there, I just read your story. my , you are amazing and so helpful to so many and I love reading the comments. As for me, I found if we put ourselves under GODS economy, after recognizing HIM as Lord of our lives He will teach us how to do that, AND I CAN SAY, WHEN I LEARNED THAT ONE TRUTH,, I DONT HAVE TO BE POOR ANYMORE,,AND IM NOW IN MY SEVENTYS AND HAVE FOUND HIS WORD IS TRUE, WE MUST ALWAYS GIVE BACK TO GODS WORK,, TEN PERCENT OF ALL WE GET IN LIFE AND DO IT BEFORE WE PAY ANY OTHER BILLS.! WHAT A WAY TO LIVE. IT FREES US FROM STRESS AND WORRY AND ALL THAT LIFE OFFERS. GOD BLESS YOU, MY FRIEND… I’VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR FORTY YEARS PLUS,,JESUS LOVES YOU!
Frank your a great American! Awsome story abut yourself. I love being associated with down to earth people that love this country and do not need a big government or corporation for that matter to tell us how to live our lives. Hope for you all the best.
Frank
I’ve sent you 2 e-mails and requested to at least maybe hear something from you yet no response. I’m glad that your making the food and products available to us and take advantage of the special offers when I can . But like so many now days I live on a limited budget. I’m a retired U.S. Army E-7 with over 20 years of service and besides my retirement check I get a small disability check for service connected injuries and my social security. My complaint with food4patriots is that like many I can not afford to shell out $200. or more in one shot to purchase some of the packages. Nor do I can for some of the items in the packages like the oatmeal and cerel and some entrees. I would love to see you make available package deals of items like the entrees such as buy a 6 pack on ones for like $30.00 or so. I could afford to make small purchases like that and would. Other companies like Wise and emergency essentials and Mountian House do. I realize your in this to help americans prepare and quite honestly I would prefer to deal with you. But I have to do what can afford
Hmmm, no mention of T H E Y, the evil behind what we are subjected to on a daily basis. T H E Y is an acronym…The Hierarchy Enslaving You, and everybody else not fortunate to be part of the 1%. What happened to Frank happens every dau in the military when it culls its own herd from folks who ..fail to adapt..meaning individual soldiers who see the evil they are subjected to, opt out before being dishonorably discharged for being …obstinate,.not a ‘team player’ meaning they don’t toe the party line, etc. I pray for Armageddon every day to put an end to the insanity T H E Y subject all of us to.
Thank you for your story, you are an inspiration to me. have things blocking you in your path, as was for me and still is in one way or another. giving up would be easy, I do have grandchildren and I want to active and lively with them for as long as I can. I am very close to retirement and worried of my stability in living life comfortably. I have begun taking the Power 4 Patriot and feel abit more energy off and on. I like the taste as I love my greens. financially it is hard at times. I work to keep up to my responsibilities. I work out every day at my age and feeling good about it.
thanks for sharing.
Dear Frank,
This was obviously a powerful message, measured by all the responses from your followers. Thanks for your honesty and sharing.
You know my story … top-dog, bad-ass cop for 22 years … high risk P.I. for 25 more … went bankrupt through no fault of ours … then I was getting old and moldy, physically challenged and struggling financially.
Yet, God has blessed us. Sure, every day is a challenge at 71 years old, but we have both learned that life would be no fun at all if it were easy!!! (Wish the Millennials understood that.) Success in life is not a free gift … it requires hard work, morality and it is always a struggle!
God has obviously blessed and rewarded, both you and Michelle for your entrepreneurial spirit of helping others. Keep up the good works you have created through Power 4 Patriots and never let accelerating profits govern your choice of life saving products to share with all of us.
Your friend,
Orrin
Scary i am going through the let go process right now. but as you I have a GREAT women by my side.
I have great faith in God and Jesus my savior and attend church regularly. Hope you and your family are right with God. I am a 100% dav and thank God I am still alive at 71 years old. My God Bless You. John
Interesting and folksy. I’m the same kinda guy and with a story so much worse, I could write a book but no one would want to read it and be depressed or believe that our judicial system could be so corrupt
But I survived and prospered dispite the thrieves calling themselves the ones in charge. Decades of struggle but never lost my joy or my family or my Faith in God.
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of “The System”.
My story is my story and unless you were a family member , it’s not for me to share with social media. But the point of self reliance , being prepared , living on less to nothing in time of crisis , coping with reversals and maybe risking losing everything including even freedom if you fight back – standing on principal, that is what my Patriot story is.
I served my country during Nam. I still wear the “Veteran baseball cap” and fly my American Flag proudly – but I stay under the radar from those who would take away what I’ve worked for all over again. Make no mistake, if they identify you as “hoarding” survival assets, and the wrong crony catches wind of it, they will take your savings, your food, even take you away from your family.
Please do stock your pantry for evil times, prepare and be wise. But don’t go all social media and most importantly… avoid making too much of yourself as I once did – stay low key !
I’m certain Ted Bundy is a story that has MUCH.more back story than the media would have you hear. That’s just a current example that comes to mind.
But take warning. Be discreet and low key – this is not a rant or a fantasy. A wise man sees trouble ahead and orepares. Amen
Good morning! Frank & Michelle, :-)
I wanted to Thank You for your confession and for sharing it with me. Golly, we’ve never met in person but, I feel as though we’ve known each other for a long time. I recieved my Disc in the mail on 6/20/2016 but,I haven’t installed it yet. I plan on Retiring at the end of this year and this will give me more free time to get this project in full swing. I truely do look forward to building this Frank and I wanted to Thank You for giving me the opporyunity to do so. You are a true inspiration to all of us. I hope that you & Michelle and your kids are all doing great. Once again Thanks for telling me about how you got started in this Buisiness. May God Bless and Keep you and your family in his Loving Care. :-)
Leo Thompson
Knightstown,IN.
I’m not sure why I received your email. I was very hesitant to open it but very glad I did because I got to read your story and the beautiful responses you received. It’s very unfortunate when things like this happens but I am so happy you as well as the other people who shared their story, survived…to God be the glory, our soon coming Savior~
Thank you for sharing I’ve been there myself and like you thank GOD for my wife sticking together and getting through the hard times .Sadly I think worst times are coming GOD will protect us
Quite a great lady, I am a lucky guy.
You said all right there
There’s your ROCK
I gave the patriot to my son for Christmas. And would you believe it—the next day his battery went dead in his car. He used the patriot and it started right up. He has put it out on Facebook and I’m hoping it will increase your business. It was a lifesaver. I am so glad I bought it. Hope you and yours have a Happy New Years coming.
Thank you for sharing Frank. I can relate. Myself and my late wife had to start over and I was determined to never be put in in that position again. I made it a rule that we would never go in debt, so no credit cards. My wife passed in 2009 and it took me years to recover. I’ve had solar power for decades. While away from home on a business trip in mid-2013, my property was invaded by druggies and they stole nearly everything of value. My solar panels, batteries, inverters, tools, and supplies. Thank GOD they left my food stores unmolested. I’ve been working hard ever since, trying to replace what was stolen. The prosecutors refused to charge those involved, some court procedure (not supported by statute) that if a crime goes unreported for more than 72 hours then those caught selling the property cannot be charged with the theft. I returned home from my trip 10 days after the last fully documented date of sale of scrap that used to be parts of my solar power system. Insurance paid but the limit of liability was $70K less than my losses. I’ve been working hard to replace what was stolen. I recently stocked up on pallet loads of new solar panels when the sale prices were right. I was barely able to afford buy one small set of 8 6V batteries, just a drop in the bucket compared to the 80 Nickel/Iron Edison cells that I once had. I’m still trying to save up the $17K it’s going to take to replace them with a similar capacity in Nickel/Iron cells from china. I bought a 6 month supply of Food4Patriots supplies because of recent EMP threats against the US from Putin. It would take only 1 EMP event centered over the US to take down our national electric grid. While I do have plenty of daytime solar power, my power storage capacity is greatly reduced from what it used to be until I can replace those Edison cells that were stolen. Exosed solar panels will likely be destroyed by EMP, whic is why I bought a lot of spares. I do have an LP generator, and a pair of EVs with onboard generators. My fuel storage tanks were stolen as well, so no large quantity of fuel stored anymore. They stole my utility trailer to haul away my tanks and other large items, cannot yet afford to replace it to buy and haul replacement tanks. I hope I have time to finish re-preparing before an EMP hits!
You can get a wind generator from Sportsmans Guide for $359.
Frank,
Thanks for trying to keep the cost down on all your products. I am currently on forced retirement and taking care of my 93 year old mother-in-law. My wife works at the local hospital and we are barely making ends meet. But I believe that being prepared and living simply is the way to go. Things are not looking good …between the grid issue, the economy and the high living costs, I feel we are in a steep spiral downward as a nation.
Frank, looks like you have a big following and deservedly so Trying to insure for major grid breakdown and I have a large propane generator. But when the propane runs out… So I got several solar generators to realize that tho they will run a sump pump, they will not run a 220 volt well pump!
I’d like to have a manual pump of some kind but the well is 150 ft. deep. Any ideas? Eddie
Eddie, if SHTF, eventually power will be gone. If you have the well pump set below the normal water level, you could most likely lower a water sampling device called a bailer into the well to retrieve water. They are tube-shaped devices with a one way valve at the bottom to let water in as it descends. Use a synthetic twine to lower and raise it. Environmental suppliers such as groundwateressentials.com carry them.
Well, you could get a generator that supplies 220V – they’re everywhere and easy to find….
M+ Bison hand pump made in Maine. Do a search “Bison hand pump. Even at that depth, it will bring up water. My well: 204′ to the water.
I am desperately wanting the tape about the Statue Of Liberty .. That is really name ISLE that I received on my gmail Sept 10 2015…, I need this tape for my family to hear… The end days step by step as the bible tells it… Frank told the story and said it would scare you to death & it has… I need this tape
Hi Frank
Thanks for sharing your struggle. My family and I had a some what similar situation. Only thru God, family and shared determination did we make it.
Looking back, we are much better and stronger than before. Sounds the same for you.
God bless!
Scott
Thanks for the heartfelt story. I too have lived through some hard times. My parents came to this great country with practally nothing. With hard work and sacrifice they achieved there part of the American Dream . I am a retired construction worker so I know well the feeling of lack of work and stressful times. My wife and I have always made ends meet. Thank You Frank for giving people a alternative for remaining self reliant. Being prepared brings peace of mind.
Hi Frank I wanted to thank you for sharing your story. I have not lost my job but have seen the writing on the wall. A couple of years ago we decided to get rid of are credit cards. We no longer have a credit card we only have a house payment. We grow alot of are own food in are garden. We raise our own meat and have been playing around with solar and wind energy. That is why I purchased your info.
thanks again John Andrus
Thank you Frank
Im a vet on disability with full custody of a 7 and 17 yr old and am all about self reliance. I have already been stocking up on ammo and arows,and been stocking up on long shelf life foods. I recently purchased the 4 week kit from you and plan to order more when my budget allows. Im open to any thing i can do to prepare and ensure my childrens health and saftey. I am an oathkeeper with pride. Thank you again and fell free to send any advice my friend. May you have a blessed day
Good morning I am 79 in sept went to the school of hard knocks been there don that. I can relate to the story’s born 1936 as a kid back then if you didn’t work you didn’t eat.
Hello Frank, I understand what you are saying my husband has now been laid off for the third time but we always manage to pick our selves up and get rolling again.I’m retired I also wanted to thank ypou I recieved my month’s supply of food today I was very Happy with it.I plan to order the snacks & the seeds to.And when my husband gets back to work I want to order thew order the solar generator don’t want to count on power company or the gov. if it goes out the power that is and I don’t want to count on the power company anymore I want to make my own power.Thank you so much again for everything. Lois
Enjoyed your testimony. I know it will encourage many. I am 71 (almost 72), a widow and was put in a position to move into an apartment (which I am not sure how long I can tolerate the city life as I have been a country girl most of my life!). Am trying to make best of where I am now, but yearn to be back in the country to have the privacy once more. I still have a lot of living to do and have looked into solar & wind power for a number of years and being totally self-sufficient. Keep up the good work with the food program. Many need it – as do I and I am trying to build my supplies again since this move so I can be prepared no matter where I am. Thanks again.
A Frank I was lucky enough to have had the experience as a teen. My secound step dad was a farm boy, and I was lucky enough have goten a taste of that life. Short and simple, lol I hope.
Started with a few chickens and a couple of rabbitts. already had a couple of horses lol ya ya ok one and a half horses, one horse and one shetland pony a story for a nether time. any ways we eventually got more checkens , a couple of pigs , a couple of beef heifers, and a holstein cow for milk, milked by hand and of course we put in a garden of some fruit and vegetables. Oh yeah also got a couple of turkeys and four ducks . Eventuelly had one beef heifer and pig salughtered. Not to mention fresh eggs and fresh milk filtered through a sterile filter. Itwas a great experience as a teen
I am 75 yrs old and still working 24/7 as a care provider for a developmental disabled adult. I make $9.00 an hour and he is Gods gift to me. We support each other.
I had worked for a company for 6 months, had a great meeting telling me how wonderful my work was etc.
A week later they gave me the boot. I was stunned to say the least. God always knows the reasons and it usually is for the best. If you ever have the chance pick up a book called URANTIA and also a Bible if you do not have one. After reading Urantia you will no longer worry, God in all his Glory is always here within us. You are a Blessed person both you and your wife. Best Wishes always. Waundra
I do work from home and have wind mill for water back up and alternator ran off of it for charging I stand with you on your thoughts been there done that not going back love your patriotism and the food keep the good work up you got many friends
Thank you Frank for your ‘confession’ – Disappointment becomes God’s appointment to be his hands and feet in helping others!
I will be sharing your story with my wife as we examine how we may become less dependent on the system that strangles us and takes more energy than it gives! I too see the value of doing my own business, and enjoy my garden, would love to have greenhouse, independent water source – and will hopefully in time
At peace, I repeat to myself the prayer asking God to grant me the strength to change the things I can, the grace to accept the things I cannot change, and the wisdom to know the difference!
Tom
Hi Frank,
Thanks for sharing your story. My wife and I have had our struggles in life. We still have some struggles, but I was told by a very good friend of mine many years ago and I quote; “What ever your struggles are do not loose faith in are Lord Jesus Christ and what you can not handle just raise your hands up to our Lord,” and asked ,” Dear Holy Heavenly Father please me and my family and all those less fortunate for I do not know what to do.” Frank I can not tell you the times that action that I took in prayer lifted me and my family and guided us to help others more times than I can remember. I have purchased different survival offers in past from your company (they are great) and shared them with my family and the less fortunate as well. My wife and I have been bless by the Almighty God many times. My wife and I try and do something for somebody at least once a day. It’s one of the best feelings that you can ever imagine it more precious than money or status. Again thank you and your company so much for the work you do for mankind.
Sincerely,
Tom and Lynn Preece
Gulf Breeze FL
i am hoping i can use some of these ideas to use in North Eastern Alaska where i plan on moving to a remote area with NO electricity, and be GREEN producing electricity is wonderfull, my question would be how much would it cost to outfit a house ( cabin ) with some simple electrical needs like lights, pumps,chargers ect,,
Thank you for what ur doing my story’s about the same a big company bought out the company I worked for for 18 yrs and they blew so much smoke up our ass till I just couldnt work there so I left and started my own company and doing ok I started preping when I was about 7 yrs old we were so poor we raised our own food and I still do I have the food down as long as I can stay where I am I’m trying to get ready just in case I have to bug out I want to start trying to get on solar and wind power as soon as I can and thanks to u I’m on my way .i hope all American will per pair for what’s coming and I think we are running out of time be safe my friend
Dear Frank,
I went bankrupt in 1991 because we were stretched too thin and the banks wouldn’t give me a chance to salvage the $9 million dollar company I spent 21 years building. I don’t do banks since then, credit unions! Also, my Mother raised me and my brother despite the depression and instilled in me the saving desire that I have practiced ever since. I have had a 6 month supply of food for most of that 24 years and 100 gallons of distilled water for the last 4 years. I have a well in my yard that I can run on the generators and a 1 gallon water distilling device. I have a foldup greenhouse 6x6x5′ and a supply of seeds to plant when necessary. So, I have been pointed towards being self-sufficient for 21 years.
Sincerely, Ronald Johnston
Do you like your fold up greenhouse? I’m not excited to pay for a full greenhouse, but find I’m really wanting one for seed starting.
Dear Frank, Your accomplishments are to be commended, and will be helpful to those who are without a relationship with Jesus Christ, John 3:3. In many places in His Word He says, “Fear Not”Yet everything concerning your program is based on fear. God is judging America, and rightly so. For one look at how many babies have been murdered through abortion. Plus He has been removed from our country by those in office. Read, Please the first 3 chapters of Revelation. The Philadelphia Church is the one that will escape the Tribulation and be Raptured out of here, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18. which happens in Rev 4:1. After this the church is no longer spoke of, but there will be many Tribulation folks coming to the Lord and will die for Christ. Jesus will take care of His children. There are many fearful weak Christians that Pastors have discarded, many who have searched for truth only to be lied to. But, Thank God there are some still teaching truth. LeSea Broadcasting, Moody Press out of Chicago on FM Radio, David Jeremiah, Chip Ingram, Lester Sumrall, Jack Van Impe. I’ve walked with Christ 34 years, saved at age 47, dying from alcohol poisoning, was saved, healed and delivered of all instantly and have taught the real Jesus of the King James Version of the Bible. No games, total trust in Him. Yes, preparation is good for tough times, but trust in Him first will make the rest second compared to His ways of taking care of His kids.Many know Him, and believe in Him, so do the demons and shutter. But they don’t have a relationship with Him. Jesus is not a denomination or a Religion. He is Lord.
Janet,
You are correct. Remember also that our Lord gave us wonderful brains to use. “The prudent sees danger and hides himself, but the simple go on and suffer for it.” Proverbs 22:3,27:12
and “consider the ant…the ant are a people not strong, yet they provide their food in the summer…consider her ways and be wise. …she prepares her bread in summer and gathers her food in harvest.” Pr 30:25, 6:6
There are a number of scriptures that encourage us to prepare for the future. Also check out the habits of the fine woman described in Pr 31, among others.
Preparing for the future doesn’t mean that we are abandoning our faith. It is, rather, wise and prudent. But you are right that we must ultimately look to our Lord above all to protect us always, all the while working according to his will, diligently working all the while.
I have been working on preparedness for several months. One thing I still have not solved is how do I bake without fresh eggs. Powdered eggs do not work, do they? I have raised chickens before but I sure don’t want to go back to that. Anybody got suggestions? Otherwise, I think I am relegated to baking biscuits only.
Take a look at your quick-bread recipes; they are basically cake. In fact, there are whole websites devoted to eggless or vegan baking. You may not be able to make hollandaise sauce, but you can certainly bake a cake!
Hi Reeba you can use flax seeds instead of eggs. Google substitutions that I can use when baking or google recipes that use no flour or sugar etc All the best Samantha
silliness.
There have been times in my life when I had to choose between buying tampons and buying food. That is NOT a choice! But I got myself into that situation — in debt to the tune of over $50,000. However, I paid it off with a lot of sacrifice, sweat and tears. We should all have to go through some difficulties to appreciate the good things; it’s the only way you know what it’s like to enjoy EARNING what you have as opposed to being given everything. The problem with so many today is that they feel they are entitled to what the rest of us have worked so hard to earn. I’ve been trying to prepare for what we all know is coming for the last couple of years, but I’m still far behind. Obtaining your 3-month food supply has helped me feel just a bit better as I crossed that item off my “Get-It” list. Thanks, Frank. I pray (loud and often) that there enough Americans left who understand freedom — and what so many have sacrificed — so we can still keep our Republic.
I have been where you were but without support.
But, today with my food order I have been able to give those I love a 3 month supply of food and the knowledge to continue what I started for them. Homeless and jobless is not a good thing but you find out who you are and what you are made of to many young people today just lay down and let the government take care to them. Ex-Navy, ex-husband, and always friend, leader, survivor, American, and most of all believer and trusting in God.
Thank you for you help and assistance in these matters.
Steve
7/15/14 Hey Frank & team…….My story is not unlike many others……..yours/those on this website & all across the globe. I’d anticipated telling you all of my grandma; on my moms side. But; I’ll not take the time or the spaces to do so. I was born in 1953 up north in Toledo,Oh. & was moved to Chicago,IL shortly therafter; where we had most of all the “luxuries” of life. Unfortunate circmstances of no faults of my parents; caused us to have to move down here in “Very Rural” E.TN. No running water & most all luxuries gone; as we’d known/loved them. Life was “Beyond hard; to/beyond harsh/;cruel & not good @all. So, I learned a lot of/about survival skills; not ever really wanting too. Since 2001 (Republican Party in White House/elsewhere); I’ve been/am still alone ;w/too many times of doing w/out or shortages of one kind or another; that’re” even now.”on going.” My plan from 2000 to date is t “GO WAY BACK……OLD/OLD SCHOOL.” I’m going to move into my pickup truck; have all utilities cut off & live off the land. I hope/pray. My grandma done it ;Along w/ millions of others & I have the skills to do it too. When? Is my only question; but been planning it now for a while. Thanks for the test………I……monies!!!!
We’ll put you on the prayer list, James.
I am trusting in the LORD; I’ve sold my house, have simplified. am expecting my shipment of a year’s worth of emergency food, etc. I’m living on Social Security & getting set back up with what little I got for my house & replenishing my belongings after my move. I wish there were some way for me to live without social security; living with my kids made me feel like I’d given up my freedom, “for my own good”, ya know? People can be so controlling even soft-spoken & all smiles!
Hi Ginny did u ever live in Ontario Canada. Do u know a Lynne Dennis or Valerie if so contact me so I can give you her info. Start selling things that you can get money for and put it away as time is coming where we will all be cut off of it CDNs and US. email me at [email protected] God Bless you and your family
So your saying there is no FDA.
Your story brings me to the book of Job. You kept your faith and in turn the Lord has blessed you. My life has been a struggle since my husband divorced me. However, I’m a surviver and live a very simple life. I hope and pray my faith is as strong as yours and one day I too, can be independent. God has blessed you and yes you passed the test. Congrats!! Thank you for sharing your story.It meant a lot to me.
Thanks for what you are doing for the People Frank. I received my Packaged in the mail last week( Food ). Plan on buying more. Going to look into the Solar Power also. Thanks again Frank, you are a True Patriot !!!
When I was 3, my father went to pick up his pay packet one Saturday and when he came home, he was white and his hands were shaking. He put the pay packet in my mother’s apron pocket and said, “That’s the last there’ll be. They closed their doors today.” She was taking the top off the pressure cooker so she didn’t say anything for a minute but then she said, “Well, you’ve got a strong back and you’re a hard worker. Call the minister and ask if he’s got work for you, and call your friend who just opened the concrete company and see if he’s got work. And we know I can cook and sew and clean. We’ll get by.” She started a catering business that took the state by storm, and she sewed enough kids’ clothes that she got the contract for all the private schools and she cleaned everyone’s houses. Dad got jobs here and there, enough to keep up his self esteem, until they decided to sink what they had into his own semi and he’d just go private. The next year, 1957, my father brought home $36,000 and my mother’s little jobs brought in $28,000. She planted a garden and started heavy duty canning every fall. He made sure the first bill his money paid was the grocery bill. They had six kids and had just taken in a seventh, and had just bought a huge house, all the month before his job ended. They never went back to working for other people either. It was just too risky.
I have been off the grid for 27 years and always had my own business. I am interested in P 4 P to learn how to make solar panels and see if it is worthwhile. Knifemaking requires fairly heavy machinery so I have been using generator and still will need to but there are times when putting some juice in my batteries could be handy when im not running the shop. So id like to see what you have and ordered the 1st pak about a week ago. Not a lot of sun in the Adirondacks but enough to collect some for my 4 to 6000 watt daily outside of the shop if I have a few panels going. Untill now I have not taken up the economic loss of buying any panels so id like to see if they can be made reasonably. Otherwise I have been living off of stored power from running the shop which carries about 2 days if I dont work. Some days in warm seasons I cut firewood and would like to stay out of the shop for 3 or 4 days and hope to nab some power during those days.
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I can’t add anymore to whats been said. I too have been down that road. Thank you for doing what you are doing ! Sincerely Bill Newman
Many thanks, Frank.
You seem to be a really ‘frank’ person and I love all you are doing and telling us.
I’d like to share this with all of you from heaven:
“God the Father: The famine, which will grip the world as the Third Seal is opened, will not be confined to the lack of food
Monday, March 24th, 2014 @ 15:33
My dearest daughter, the famine, which will grip the world as the Third Seal is opened, will not be confined to the lack of food for the body. The famine I speak of will be starvation of the spirit, as every trace of the Truth will be erased by the enemies who infiltrate the Church, created on Earth by My Son, Jesus Christ, in union with His Body….”
Even God the Father talks about the famine and the lack of food, and let us all try to become ‘independent’ with food, energy, water, etc. as Frank advocates.
With my deep appreciation of your work in God,
Stephen
PS. For more information on the heavenly message, please refer to: http://www.thewarningsecondcoming.com/
After reading the stories I know it bad all over.My story is lost my house in the mortgage fraud The IRS stole 27.000 without a court order causing the lost of the house and the battle continues .The government has fail to protect the American people they became our enemy plain and simple . I feel for everyone here and I guess I am lucky getting 3999.00 a month pension keeping me alive . Believe in god he will provide trust him . America is dead a matter of time DO NOT TRUST CORPORATE AMERICA =ITS NO COUNTRY GO TO UNTIED STATES OF AMERICA INC . Y ou will find out the truth massive fraud its all under US title 15
sorry about the IRS “stealing” your money. but, you are saying that you are “getting by” with 3999.00 USD per month. I mean: Seriously?
Cant get by on just 3999.00 a month. You must spend money just like the U.S. government. I am a retired person living on Long Island N.Y. with a total income of less than 2,000 a month. The problem is you trying to live above your means
Really? $3999.00 a month pension and you hate Corporate America? Most people in this country would not have a job if not for corporations. Be as self-reliant as possible but stop whining.
You are lucky to have that much money every month!
I survive on half that amount and hope the government doesn’t take THAT away from me!
I am fortunate to still have most of my health and some savings that I’m eating through to put my last child through college. I want my kids to start off on their own debt free as my way of trying to make up what our generation has done borrowing on the future for today. Obamacare will cost the average family making $56,000/yr to pay (mandatory to have health insurance) $20,000/yr of health insurance (according to the CBO). This is not healthcare, only the insurance. Doctors are refusing to join and many plan early retirement. Thousands of nurses are being fired while millions of health policies are being cancelled and few can afford the higher rates, higher deductibles, with fewer covered medicines. Our government seems to be preparing by purchasing hundreds of millions of rounds of ammunition, much of it hollow point which is illegal to use in war, stockpiling survival food, and decimating the military. Eventually, the people will rebel or become too poor to finance the supplies and influence (Tea Party/Libertarian candidates) needed to resist a tyranical government. The nation continues to elect politicians that rob its people of their labour to spend wastefully. It is recommended to give God 10% where our government takes over 60% from some not counting the added costs of regulations, death tax, and double taxes as dividends, etc. I am ashamed at what we are leaving for our children, that we let the government steal land away from citizens without just compensation, we feed/educate/house/heel illegals over our own citizens (at a cost of over $200 Billion/yr), and tolerate our government to force our children be indoctrinated in public schools where if they do graduate – a great many can’t read or write or pass an 8th grade level test. Will enough learn to be responsible before we all become economic slaves to the government?
I see too many posts blaming “fat cat” capitalists. It costs businesses a lot of money to keep up with 40,000 pages of Obamacare regulations that Obama keeps changing the “law” and expects businesses and families to “adjust” over night to delaying laws that many have spent months and years to get ready for. Add changing tax law, environmental regs, OSHA, labor laws, accounting standards, privacy, maintaining records, etc. This is not capitalism, the government controls the market (environment) and picks who it wants, not letting the market dictate. This is communism and there will soon be just two classes – the ruled class and the ruling class. Special interests destroys capitalism and many of you blame your employers and praise your new master – the government. Your employers were most likely trying to comply and must be able to compete in an expanding world market where labor is cheaper, regulations less costly, costs to manufacture less. So do what needs to be done. Vote for people that have answers and get rid of those that don’t. There are only so many rich people and they have the means to leave. Why blame them, they can’t force you to do something, but the government can raid your property, freeze your assets, listen to your conversations, track your goings, scan you email, see your debit/credit purchases, and if you disagree – put you in jail. It wasn’t long ago that when you were injured, sick, etc. that it was your family’s responsibility to care for you and sometime church or neighbors. Now we all expect the government to take from our neighbors (tax) to give you “assistance”. The cost of collecting from your neighbors (if they don’t pay voluntarily they can go to jail and assets taken), pay the bureaucracy that processes it all with government workers that make considerably more than the average civilian with their more extensive benefit plans and maybe you can see that inefficient government costs way more. And it keeps growing because people vote for it.
Dear Frank,
Thank you for sharing your stoty. We all have similar stories. We bought 4acres. land in country, off the grid. Payed off house in town & planned to build on land. I broke spine in 2006, and now am waiting on a pacemaker for heart. I am doing what we can online with limited funds. My wife does not take Patriot Survival serious ar all. She still works and provide a meager income forus & our 3 children, 11,13,14yrs. of age. She told me to get what we need.She doesnt realize survival supplies are expensive. I wished I had a way to get her on same page as me. She thouht I was a fanatic until she had a woman client, actively working in military, tell her”Oh no, my husband and I have been prepping for yrs.”she said,”a majority of military people prep.” Its not being obsessed, rather a realist! So we do what we can.My primary responsibility is to protect these children. I am slowly advising my family to get on board before its too late.It doesnt hurt to be prepared, even if things dont collapse. When I get my back and heart repaired, I will dig deaper.My next project is aqua/hydroponics.Thanks for info. Tate Terrell aka Taternator
I really admire you for all the trouble you have had to go through. I wish you the best. I went through the worst problem in life with the Bureau of Indian Affairs in 1957. I had two degrees a BS and a MS and was given a civil service job at Crownpoint. New Mexico and after a year. INstead of giving me permanent status, I was terminated in not using tact and was given 4 reasons , (1) not liking the tone of my voice on the phone, (2) My , sending a policy letter out with using the word, shall, instead of (shall). I had no job for a while and my wife had a baby before we could move. I survived and don:t need the goverment to make a living for. The whole bureau appears corrupt. But we did OK without them. It seems that you are doing the same. The Best to you.
On January 26 of 2014 my poor husband came home from his job of 12 years…a job he had worked day and night doing….building the ‘fat cat’ bosses everything they asked for even though it wasn’t in his job description…but they knew he was talented enough to be able to build whatever they wanted and save them the money they would have spent calling in the actual union workers to do the job…then he did his actual job…helped refit buildings for them all over town…doing it for the amount of money they paid for his ‘actual’ job, not for what he was doing….then they decide they need to get rid of him since he knows ‘where the bodies are buried’…and HR calls him in and tells him some little ‘service clerks’…(grocery baggers) have complained about him ‘looking at them funny’….(he kept telling one young girl to pull up her work apron and look professional…I was shopping in the store and heard him actually tell her in a low voice to stand up straight, pull up her apron and stop looking like a slob)…so they made up stories about him not realizing he would be fired. Now they can’t change their story or THEY will be fired. Even though people are coming out of the woodwork to say he is an exceptional worker, the female HR is out to take his head. I can’t even shop in the store or use the pharmacy there although all my meds were sent from my docs to that one…now they had to be sent to another store and pharmacy. We are living on a tight budget now…we always were but now it’s scary. I am disabled and hubby makes a small amount for taking care of me at home. I bought some survival food just to have on hand….please pray for us as we go through this. He will have a hearing but while he doesn’t ever want to work for them again we are hoping for a wrongful termination and defamation settlement. It will hopefully give us enough to get started somewhere else. I knit, crochet and make a lot of our household items and clothing myself. I also teach music and make a little extra that way. I’m not supposed to be working because of my health, but I am doing what I can to help support us. Don’t pray for things to get better, just pray for us to have the strength to keep going…God will see us through, I have been reading and praying the Psalms. David knew what it was like to suffer torments and also to trust in God and know that he needed to lean ONLY on the arm of God and NOT on the arm of man. We will do the same. Thanks for all your help Frank. You are priceless. I am still waiting on our shipment of food and hope to buy more as circumstances permit. Glad I heard about you on Glenn Beck’s radio show. Glenn has been warning us for a long time. I got some survival stuff before but needed more food since what I had needed to be rotated and we went through it….we are going to plant another garden and keep on going. We have some fruit trees and can our own jam, so we can quietly sell our extra too. Will keep all of you brother and sister patriots in our prayers. We all have to hang together or surely we will “all hang separately’ as the great Ben Franklin said!
There’s a “Consecration” prayer that I use, which I received from a book that was written in 1907, by Wallace Wattles, “The Science of Being Great.” The Consecration prayer reads:
“I will obey my soul, and be true to that within me that ‘is the highest.’ I will search within the pure idea of right in all things, and when I find it, I will express it in my outward life. I will abandon everything I have outgrown, for the best I can think. I will have the highest thoughts concerning relationships, and my manner and actions shall express these thoughts. I surrender by body to be ruled by my mind; I yield my mind to the dominion of my soul, and I give my soul to the guidance of God.”
Always remember what the lost gospel of St. Thomas says: “The Kingdom of God is ‘inside of you,’ and all around you, not in the mansions of wood and stone. Split a piece of wood, and I am there; lift a rock and there you’ll find me.” He also said: “When these two become one, in soul, thought and action, then you say to the mountain be thou removed and cast into the sea, and the mountain will move.” This actual quote had been changed in the bibles, and only a handful of people knew this secret. But this is the exact scripture, as it was translated from Aramaic; and this is the language that Christ used.
For years I’ve been studying the hidden scriptures, what was plagiarized New Testament of the King James version of the bible. And in that study including the “Dead Sea Scrolls,” “The Talmud Emmanuel,” and in “The Book of Enoch the Prophet,” which was found in an Ethiopian Monastery, and is one of the lost books, to find out ‘why’ man has kept control over others. When we keep looking with only our physical eyes, on physical ‘things’ and not all the truth, we miss much and all we see is what is around us, and the bad things happening ‘out there.’
This is when it’s important to quiet our minds, laying out some time to be one with our Creator. It’s what I’ve recently done, and I’m now receiving answers to my most important questions.
When we need things, we only need to ask, without hidden motives or judgment, or of right or wrong, guilt or anxiety because we ‘cut off’ the power of Creation. But then to pray for that which we desire with our hearts, we create the envelope to surround ourselves with that desire and form a great mental picture of it. God knows the desires of our heart before we did; but he’s waiting for us to acknowledge that He in within each of us. We just need to settle down long enough to ‘be alone and one with him.’…to set aside any ‘want’ and let him speak though our souls and our hearts. God’s never stopped giving miracles out; the problem is, is that we’ve made our lives so busy trying to ‘get things’ by ‘only hard work’ that we’ve shut him out. Scripture study is fine – but God needs you to speak to Him from within. We don’t need what anyone else says about God, in manual prayers from the bible, or incantations…he cares not about that. What he does want is to communicate with each one of us…if we give him that totally ‘quiet time’ within and without and let ‘him’ speak, he will speak those miracles we’re looking for. But it won’t come from your head…it will come from within our heart and soul, for this is where he resides.
Blessing and much love to you and your family. :)
A message of hope for all you people who have written above; go to Amazon.com and get a copy of Emmet Fox’s “The Lords Prayer” It sometimes is combined with his “Sermon on the mount”. The cost is little and the pay-off is great. I am 87 yrs. old, self employed all my life and still working, still have income. Emmet Fox explains how Jesus tells how all your needs are met. Have used this method all my life. God bless you.
I have been wanting for sometime now to build some solar panels for my home and coming across your website here, I now can help my family and myself to save some of my hard earned money out of the hands of that big powerful monopoly that is constantly raising my electric bill. Now that I have that chance, I want to proceed to do just that.
I have read a lot of your comments here and see there is a great amount of sorrow out there in the world. I also feel that our GREAT country we all live in will soon change as you also feel.
If you are a bible student and study the bible often, you will understand what I’m trying to say.
I see by reading some of the comments that you, Frank and the rest of the people that wrote these comments, also feel things are changing in our grate country.
In what you are doing on this website, helping others for there future in living, then what you are doing in return, you will succeed. May the Lord bless you in your work.
Yours Truly,
Lowell
Dear Mr. Hammons,
Thank your lucky stars that you were borne in the USA and had the opportunity to remain in your country and recover.
I was born in Hungary that was taken over Stalin after the WWII, and grew up under communism. My parents owned a tiny butcher shop that was nationalized, the term meaning it belongs to the Gov. that made me an “enemy of the country” at age 6.
My father had to bribe people just to get me into high school.
We rebelled in 1956 and I managed to end up in this great country of ours that is about to be much like my native country was till 1989.
While the word “party” was just another four letter word to me. I joined the Republican Party a couple of years ago, because I have 4 grand grandchilden.
The best to you,
Bela
I’ve been planning what you did for awhile now. I’m waiting for the products I ordered from you to get going with it. I have property in an area that would allow us to do what you did. Grow a garden and be more self reliant. I need to get out of my area trying to sell our house in a terrible housing mkt. Frank thanks for the info. looking for ward to receiving your products.
It seems the way of the corporate world is the same. I to remember the usher /hatchet man showing me the door. You can knock me down but you can also bet, that I will get up and be ready for happens next. I chose to do something different than I had ever done. I decided that I would go to work in an industry that embraced grey hair, maturity and was in need today and will be needed tomorrow. There only one industry that never has up and downs in the market. I chose the funeral industry at age 65. Since then I have helped many find new avenues of income and most important family assistance. I do this everyday and look forward to getting up. It is nice to have that get up feeling. I hope that everyone one here reads this and understand that there are those of us that understand the trials of life. Today I am on a recruiting trip. I have three interviews to complete.
For those that are having problems keep your chin up. Stop finding problems in your life and find positive answers. The future will be decided by what you find and make of it. Frank, thanks for the food and this wonderful opportunity to possibly help someone with this great forum.
Frank, as you can see on the comments, many folk are in the same boat and many are leaking…If you care to read the “Leviticus ch.26 and Deuteronomy ch.28… You will find the cause and the solution here… For better understanding go to ” http://www.rcg.org ” !!!
thank you for your time on this reality ishu,,,,
I would like to author a book on Condo rip offs , why no one , who is capable , should buy a Condo , especially in Florida or in the South. As to living in the South , you find out what your neighbors think of you real fast .
Other topics Inheritance Theft has is my story where my mother disinherited me after I got her out of trouble with rip off artists here in the South . She disinherited me by the simple method of the home care worker taking over my mother finances and her
dependence on her to wash her etc. How this works is worth thousands of dollars . As to commenting
on the story , the story is mainline crap from the same SOB s that got corporate welfare and bailouts form the Feds and others will fire others at the drop of a hat and useless . By the way severance is generally by contract and by a time period that one works on a job . If there is no union you have to go to fixed courts for your severance . The State may get your severance if one applies for unemployment insurance , and this means nothing to the State .
As to not being allowed to get personal property , this is illegal , but does happen . One should call the cops if they would come . You have to be allowed to get personal property and the firm most likely was afraid of reprisals . Normally , one would ask for a letter of recommendation and this the axe man , would be asked for and should have been part of a kit , as he was fired through no fault of his own , and as such was not just entitled to unemployment ins , but also a recommendation.
THANKS FOR YOUR STORY. I JUST HAVE TO SAY THAT I WAS A FIREFIGHTER/PARAMEDIC HERE IN GEORGIA FOR A TOTAL OF 25 YEARS. IT WAS ONE NIGHT AFTER WORKING AN EVENT AT THE GEORGIA DOME THAT A TRUCK HIT MY VECJILE AND KEPT GOING, BUT I SPUN AND ROLLED OVER 4-6 TIMES IN DOWNTOWN ATLANTA IN 2000. I SUFFERED A SEVERE HEAD INJURY THAT THEY DID LOOK INTO AND STILL CAUSES ME PROBLEMS TO THIS DAY. MY HEAD WAS CUT OPEN FROM FRONT TO BACK AND MY SPINE WAS INJURIED IN MANY PLACES. I’M IN SEVERE PAIN EVERY DAY AND I LIVE ALONE. MY DADDY HAS HELPED ME THE BEST HE CAN, BUT AT 85 AND STILL WORKING CAN ONLY DO SO MUCH. I WISH I COULD WORK AGAIN, BUT MY CONDITION WILL JUST NOT ALLOW IT OR WILL ANYONE HIRE ME IN THE EVENT I HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND IT IS WORKERSCOMP ISSUE. I JUST WISH THAT THEIR WERE SOME PEOPLE WHO COULD HELP ME OUT AND NOT JUST A HAND OUT. I LIVE ON $660.00 A MONTH AND FOOD STAMPS OF $60.00 WHICH I’M BLESSED THAT I GET. IF ANYONE OUT HERE HAS ANY IDEA I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEM. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME IN THIS MATTER. I WISH YOU ALL THE VERY BEST AND THANKS FRANK FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE… BEST WISHES ALWAYS..KEN HUDSON:-)
thank you for your confession/story I hope to meet you some day ,maybe work w/you to get more on board w/ your system .i just got let go and pray I may find mmy true calling since I was unhappy w/my career of 11 years there &15 years of property maint.i actually feel elated and reborn/not so much my wife but thank you
Thank you for your comment. I too have had a challenge and are waiting to read the rest of my story to see how things will turn out. What I am telling you all happened in the year 2013 and it has changed my life. I am having some health challenges that has stopped me cold in my tracks. My house is paid for but in 2013 it became unliveable because of mold and we decided to fix it at a great expense. All of my adult life I have been looking forward and preparing for days like we are seeing now taking and teaching classes. I believe in everything you are saying. I used to make winter clothes made out of foam that would keep you warm in artic climates. I had an alternative water source put in my well but it became contaminated and so i lost that source. I have an alternative house source with all the comforts of home if I need to live in it. I have stored water and food but there is no way right now that I could take care of my self let alone my family. My family thinks I am crazy for preparing like I have all these years. In all the sceneros to plan for an emergency I never once saw my health as an issue. God willing I will be able to keep going and be part of the solution. That has always been my desire but you never know what will happen to you from day to day. We will all need each other to help one another through the years to come. Keep up the good work!
Due to health problems, my spouse is now unemployed. we own our house (or rather the gutted shell of a cabin) and we live in a camper on the lawn of the cabin. My job doesn’t pay enough to cover our medical copays and yet, without the insurance benefits, we’d really be up a creek without a paddle. Even though I barely make it day to day, I’ve no choice but to stay working as long as possible or we would both die…literally. Between heart problems, high blood pressure, stomach problems and chronic pain for both of us, we’ve no option to get free of prescription medications. Any suggestions on how to proceed would be greatly appreciated. What good does owning your home do when it’s got no floor in half of it and no wall on part? Winter in a camper will be grueling for us and our pain. God has gotten us through so far.
I have bought items on the internet before and of course got ripped off! But I am excited for the patriot items to get to my house. I am on disability and still have a mortgage payment so I will need all the help I can get. I will respond again when I give this my full effort. Until then, wish me luck!
It is called dependency, Frank. If you let yourself become dependent You are set up for a shock. Every job I ever took I already had a date when I was going to leave that job. Jobs were to accomplish a specific goal. Getting my kids through Collage for example. If you are unprepared life is hard.
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Thank you Frank for sharing your story. It inspires me to think making shifts.
I’m sorry you and your family went through so much heart ache. I can see so many families suffering today, do to lack of work, the economy and other hardships. I blame most of the problems on Obama and his Administration. These past five years have been the worst for most families and it doesn’t look like it’s going to get any better…only worse…as long as this present Administration is in Power! Your ideas are good and I appreciate what you are saying. We are concerned about the future, not only for ourselves, but for the American people. We have weak Leaders and they don’t seem to be
I would like to thank you for all your hard work ,commitment,dedication and patriotism.If it were not like people like you,to open our eyes to what is going on in our country we would all be in a world of hurt.Although I am not working right now I am going to find a way to get some emergency food supplies for myself and my family.Hurricane season is over but we live so close to mexican boarder we never know what is going to pop off.Again, thank you for your commitment and dedication to helping american citizens prepare for the inevitable.
I can’t tell you how much better I feel now that took the steps to prepare for an emergency. I’m so happy that I took the time to listen to your advice, it made me realize just how fragile our society is. Having our food and water supply cut off for just one week would cause a panic. I can’t imagine what would happen if it was a month or more. Thank you for bring this to my attention.
In 2009, I was on short-term disability for a chronic illness. A new company was taking over EMS in our city and I was told that even though I had worked there over 18 years, since I was a union employee (I was a supervisor), I was not going to be hired by the new company. The job that I had applied for would have meant me being at the bottom rung of the seniority list, but it would have been a job. As it turned out, the boss’ wife got the job because her back was bothering her and it would be easier for her to be a dispatcher. I have 2 children still at home, am divorced, and my son-in-law and granddaughter live with me, too. I am trying to find a way to make ends meet. I am going to use the information I have read in your material to try to turn my life into a success. Wish our town let us raise chickens in the city limits. Moving just isn’t an option at this point. Thank you for your inspiration and help.
thank you for manning up and giving our money back i was a very hard working man until i hurt my back at work and had 2 back surgeries,i am now permanently disabled,and thank god i don’t believe in credit,and luckily i own my own house and land,it’s hard living on a fixed income,and money is a hard thing to come by,i am 44 years old and been with my lovely wife for 26 years,i don’t own anything i did not save and earn for,i am a poor man but i am rich with love and family,and i still grow some of my own food,if i did not own my home,we could not make it,so thank you for giving our money back.
I raked and scraped and I also made it and I do have a hell of a good water!! 400ft artisan well and am in the works of electric and heat and drinking supply!!! We have to have it running all the time and it is cold!!!The best that was tested in lab without anyone knowing where it came from. I made sure I have several places to get to water from inside and outside so if we were unable to go outside that in ok until safe. I have no problem letting family friends use and not abuse gods gift to me. Thank u Frank and family and power 4 patriots 4 the know how to deal with the world and what it coming to survive healthy!!God Bless. Kat/Kuda/Kuschka
Mr. Bates –
Thanks for all the great info., Survival Food, and your story. I appreciate having all these valuable tools for what I belive to be “devastating times” we will soon face. I too, am doing all I can to become financially independent. I’m acutally enjoying the “less is more” lifestyle. Being debt-free and having the things one REALLY needs in a crisis is REAL freedom — so glad you understand that :)
I live in an apartment right now, so I can’t grow my own vegetables, raise chickens, etc. But I DO plan to stock up on plenty of your food, water, etc. — and use the tips from the information you sent me. I feel MUCH better, knowing that I can use these things to survive when the time comes.
Thank you for Food4Patriots and for all you do. Bless you and your family :)
Sincerely, Beverly Frank
Fran i’m so excited t be getting your information i can’t wait yes i know what hard times are my husband is on SS and have been waiting on the VA to approve his 100%disabiltys we have been fighting this for 5yrs hpe your program will help us ,’Thank you for sharinf it !!!
Glenda
Went through the same thing about 40 years ago. Payment on small mobile home, rent for it, and the ex skipped out with bounced child support check. Because I owned more than $1500 worth, all I could get from welfare was free medical for us plus a $25.00/month supplement because my $200 net income was too much to qualify. People can’t believe I fed both of us for $5.00 a week. But that’s because I pulled out the flowers & put in a vegetable garden!
Thanks to your recent information I plan to do that again. Have been thinking about going solar but I hear pros and cons. Is it something you would recommend? My house is old and too big for me so I have been thinking about “downsizing”.
Frank, we went through this several times. My husband is a chemical engineer and has been laid off more times than I can count. Back in the late 1980s, he was laid off his job at Coca Cola and I was forced to quit my bookkeeping job at a security dealer because of health issues. Shortly after that, my daughter was hit by a car while riding her bike. The day I brought her home from the hospital, there was a letter in the mailbox that notified us that we were being evicted because our landlord had also lost his job and needed his townhouse back. So…been there, done that. In 1989 I started my own business which is still functioning, also since 2008, we have been struggling. My son runs it with me. My husband still trusts corporate America for his income. We grow many of our own veggies and buy from a local farmer the rest. Also our beef, pork, and poultry comes from him. We strongly believe in supporting our local growers. I have recently gotten a solar panel and battery and am in the process of getting that up and running. We have a rain barrel for the garden. Are looking into keeping bees as the rest of the neighborhood is big on Monsanto’s toxic Roundup and have killed most of our pollenating insects. I also grow a lot of flowers and and have a clover patch. Gotten very good at finding thrift store bargains and most of my clothes are from Goodwill or Last Chance Thrift. Always looking for new ways to save and protect my family. I thank you for sharing your story with us. You are an inspiration.
I bought your power 4 patriots package for my husband as a surprise. He is always on the computer listening to what is going on and what he can do to make our life easier. He is very intelligent and can do just about anything. If something goes wrong in the house or even the car he can fix it! He hurt his back on the job and is now on disability and feels bad that he is not able to work. I am the main bread winner in our marriage and times are tough as you know. When he saw what I purchased for him on your dvd he thanked me but said he already knew about this and has always wanted to go solar and already knows how to do it but when you don’t have the money it is hard to get everything you need; so I guess I just wasted more money on something I did not need. Oh well thanks anyways we are still patriots wishing for more power!
I am very pleased to hear things are doing better for you. I am into my retirement, not completely my own choice. I have dealt with illnesses For a number of years now. I do get a lot of help from the VA and I appreciate it greatly. I bought your package on wind and solar power and believe it will be doable. I’ll wait till spring to attempt it. Got great neighbors and getting help won’t be a problem. I mainly wanted to say thank you and keep up the good work. You have some different projects that I will get at a later time.
Thank You;
greg
I know what hard times are as well my children s father passed away. i supported our children driving a forklift doing factory work (I asked my dad what do i do we had no life insurance on him we were supposed to live a lot longer) he was in late 40’S. Dad told me you were raised on a farm driving a tractor at the age of 10 Go to cessna and apply for work. That is the way I supported my kids. I did not apply for food stamps medical or anything like that I worked a mans job because i had to. I am now 72 and want to make everything work it is going to be harder with the person that is in the white house now with seniors raise so lowe and all gro,. gas, insurances going up I only hope I can build this that I have ordered from you to get off elect and so on
God bless you and yours
t
I was telling my neighbor about buying 90 days of meals. He was asking me, where did you do this at. I told him. I guess I could try to forward an email or try to see if when I get my order there was something I could give to him. What should I do. Thanks, for you relaying your past. I think that most of us have stories like that except, most of us don’t try to prepare or change our life style unless there is no options. Once again Thanks.
Frank, my husband has been in the IT field since 1984 but two years ago, the scenario you described above played out for him also. I still had my job up until 9/10 this year. The print shop I’d worked at for over eight years closed down. Now we’re on food stamps, $181/week unemployment and a paper route that pays about $1000/month. We have two kids still in school and this Christmas is looking very bleak. We’re hoping we can find the money to implement some of the ideas in your videos to help us out with our expenses. Thank you for sharing your story…
Brenda Mac Donald
Frank,
When my husband passed away in 97 I was 37 and still working for the Federal Government, it wasnt long after his passing I found out I was not eligible for his social security in a widows pension. Our government DOES not look after WIDOW, make a long story short I had to claim bankruptcy but I didnt lose my home or car. I ended up having to retire on a disability income a few years later, and to my surprise I get less then people who get SSI and i worked for the Government for 22 years, When i saw your site it made me feel that maybe I can save myself some money. My gas and electric bill keep rising and I could use the help. I am glad there are people like you.My one concern is if the city will allow me to build on my property!
Hi Frank: I loved your story of adventure and fear and all else. In 1981 a company I was working when they sold and were supposed to keep our office opened, but the new complany decided to close it that day. They shipped me out to a satellite office where I was working for a guy (who is now my customer) who worked for my company in a subordinate capacity. I’ll never forget standing on my front steps and wondering what to do. We had six children, a mortgage and normal bills and my wife did not work. We didn’t have much in savings, about $2000. Well we went on a Marriage Encounter weekend and the job was the highlight of our communications. At the end of that weekend, we decided I would NOT do anything to upset the applecart. That we would be SECURE. Well, I went into work on Monday and believe it or not, I gave my two week notice. I had a life insurance license through this company and decided to use it to sell insurance to my previous customers of our finance company. To shorten the story, God helped me tremendously as I went through each insecure day. In six months I had sold more life insurance commissions (in fact double) than I made in salary and that convinced me it was a good business. Through searching I found an insurance agency that was defunct and we made a deal that I would operate it. That was 31 years ago this past February. We insure over 2500 people and gross over $600,000 in commission. Most of all, our freedom was established to make decisions that benefited us and not Big Business. I see your adventure as pretty parallel to ours. Our kids are all grown and they produced 15 grandchildren and it’s been a great life. Thanks for sharing your story.
Thanks Frank,
For contacting me, and I have been i been your shoes before, it was a nightmare. I wanted to say thank you for putting your knowledge in a package for people like me. This last go around with our Government was a scary eye opening experience for me. I am preparing now for what I know is inevatable either in february or in the not so distant future. Our country and the its financial health are on life support and eventualy we are all going to be in a world of hurt. I can not wait for your program to arrive I believe it will be the final piece to my plan of action for my families survival.
Thank you.
Matthew Hammons
I own a small oil & gas exploration company and exploring for oil is a risky business. Recently I have seen more and more government obstacles which make it hard on the little guys. My wife and I have garden and grow vegetables. We also maintain a chicken coop which provides us with plenty of eggs. It would be nice to get off the grid, hopefully your product will be a start.
There are a million sad stories out there. You are fortunate to have survived and prospered. I hate the idea of being dependent on an electric provider with basically no competition. I paid the $27 for what I thought was several DVDs and books and instead I received 1 CD. Truth told I haven’t had time to check it out but I’m afraid I’ll find nothing but another pitch to spend more money. I hoe your money back guarantee is for real because I am retired and don’t like to waste money. You made this approach sound doable by just about anyone so I felt what could it hurt to take a look.
Mr. Bates:
Your confession is good and it also may just be a line for all I know.
I have lived on a ranch in some very hard situations. No electricity, No running water and mo bathroo,. With having to lower a bucket into a cistern for my water which I boiled on the stove.
I am a believer in living off the land and natural ways of heat and so forth. I was excited about your video and spent the twenty seven dollars which comes out of my budget with Christmas comimg up. But I believed in what your selling.. and then the next step which continued on.. bigger deal and more money which I do no have. It seems a wee bit dishonest that after putting in my bank card.. comes the continued adding more freebies to cost me more.. and now I feel what I have is inadequate without the whole package. I hope you honor the refund part because I want my money back! I am a senior and live on less than seven hundred a month.. Thanks..
I have ordered several items and ended up paying more than the $27…..if I had paid closers attention I would not have bought some of the extras. Website needs to be updated to make it clearer that you do not want any of the extras. I have not regretted any of the extras. Some of the dad’s (for some reason my cell phone keeps changing the wording to dad’s) have several videos on them. Watch them before you return them….you may decide they are worth keeping.
Thank you Frank, for sharing your story. You are fortunate to have a family that understands and stood behind you in your loss. Hopefully you are better off since you became a corporate outcast. As Napoleon Hill in his fine book, Think and Grow Rich, emphasizes the value of a good woman in a man’s life. In my upcoming book inspired by by late beautiful wife, Brenda, I’ll be sharing some good stuff about family companionship while extolling the self-reliance concept. I lost my job also and went on to share some valuable information for inspiration about how to turn the tables on the “get an education, get a good job” mentality as the way to go. You and others will enjoy the article I did on “Job Loss” and some great advice for dealing with it. I can share this information with you by attaching it to an email or just mail it to you.
All the best to you and yours, and best wishes from the south (Jasper, AL),
Ron.
Yes our income has dropped a lot and we will have to replace our HVAC sometime in the near future and looking to see if this is something we can do. Thanks.
I too lost my health had worked after school built and put together a 65GTO and also put a Chevy 235 cu in in a 1951 jeep pick up rebuilt and engineered changeovers myself from auto mechanix/welding classes by t hotel e time I barely.made the grade to graduate classes from hifh School worked at the sugar factory and as a welder for Rhiokol here in IF,ID I worked on the engines every moment from work and soon aquired a used dirtbike Had a chance to make big.money traveling the area in the warm months building and tearing out RR tracks after the second season went to work as a sectionman maintaining RR tracks in the yard here in and when I was bumped went to Bignsprings and
Frank
I hear what you are saying, The way I came to wanting solar power is a story its self.
I just started setting up my manufactured home and got sick and now the doctors are putting me on disability @ the age of 48 (I am not happy about it) and the lady from the power company came out to see what it would take to bring power across the road and give me power, I was shocked when she said $12,000 up front . I was even more shocked knowing with no income for at least the next 6 months the words that came out of my mouth, I will go solar before I give you that kind of money to cross the road.
Well I did not know a thing about solar or any other alternate power so I got on line and told my self I better learn supper fast and some how my girlfriend got an e-mail from power 4 patriots and her thinking that I am an idot she sent me the e-mail and me being the idot I knew I needed help and I watched your intro and ordered your packet knowing I have got to show that I am not the idot we all think I am. Note I am doing all the work on remodeling, setting up and now solar power by myself and no money (I even reuse the screws and nails). so as I wait for your books(dvd) to get here I keep asking my self am I really that idot.
thanks for your time.
Rick
ps: I know I am not the Idot they think I am and it’s time to shine my lite
Thank you for this opportunity Frank, I’ve always been interested in alternative power solutions but like you, did not know how or if I could ever afford it, I’m glad you and your family have been able to make it to even ground again, my prayers are with you, God Bless You and Your Family Through All Your Endeavours. Can’t Wait To Get Started…,
Hey Frank,
Congratulations to you and your wife for becoming more independent and helping others by doing so! I have been in similar situations to yours in my lifetime and know how scary and depressing it can be. I also started my own business in the construction industry 18 years ago, when I decided that I was tired of being dependent on others for my income. I also grow my own fruits and vegetables and can my own food when I have extra. My husband and I wanted to install solar power in our home years ago, but it was too expensive, so I am looking forward to learning from you about how to do that on my own. Keep up the good work!
Thanks, Diane
I know a bit of what you went through.
I found myself alone with 4 kids and struggle to not loose the house, make up payments delinquent. Never received a penny from the kids father. Ate brown gravy potatoes and pasta soups for a very long time. Did not have the $ for my kids to continue their educations. They all are very good citizen and I praise God for always helping me. Two of the boys, did later on went to college.
What I have, I have earned and wished I could help specifically my other son to start his own business.
I am originally from France and love the USA where I learn english, went to work and proud to be a US citizen.
Marie D.
Thank you for your inspiration.
I consider myself fortunate to have come across your site. I am extremely interested in the solar power you mentioned. I would love it if I could get off the grid. I live in a 828 square foot house and would like to know what I need to do to switch to solar power. This may be a stupid question but should I go with solar power is there a need for a generator? I was thinking of getting a generac due to my disabities I cannot be without power. Any information you can give me would be appreciated. I am deeply empowered by what you said in your commentary.
Sorry you had a bad time.
We are all having a bad time.
I tried to retire. I got Cancer. I tried starting “work from home businesses”; usually stopped by dishonest people. The bills were too much. I had to go back to work (i.e., find a job.) I had to quit that job after almost ten years; almost two years short of retirement because of harassment from every level of employees. Now I have to finish paying loans needed to get by before getting that job.
One way is to reduce my utilities; and provide some level of safety for necessary utilities (e.g., there have been three attempts in three months to take down the electrical grid in my area.) I made it through those outages; however, I now see the need to go further.
I started looking at Power4Patriots; planning how to supplement my utilities in stages.
You want all of my money up front. The government wants all of my money up front.
I can’t deal with this pressure to buy what I can afford.
Frank,
Thanks for sharing, it is refreshing to know that there are folks out there in America, that actually
care and know what it means to strive to be self-sufficient. Our church has been preaching for all
of the membership, to have a two year supply of food and water and emergency supplies to sustain a family, for any crisis. Which they knew it was going to happen many years in the future, but wanted to have folks, get in the habit of not only storing food, but to eat and get accustomed to eating this type of food. The process can and will help in a long term crisis. But as people get more complacent in life, they lose the ability to maintain this most important saving grace. The line about American’s and asking the question, what is the difference between ignorance and apathy? “I don’t know and I don’t care.” (Sad commentary, but true in majority cases) So the percentage of folks that are preparing, is going down instead of up, as it should be.
We were told by a leader of our church many years earlier, “The saints will find themselves in the latter days, in extravagance, speculation, and financial bondage.” This is absolutely the truth and as we reflect on this, just look up in the dictionary, all four of these words and it is where most of America is today!
As an example, Glenn Beck came to Phoenix, last Friday and spoke for free and in a building that seats over 5,000 people, less than 700 showed up. Very sad in deed. And there is a traveling bus of Vets, that are going across the country and stopping to speak about the Freedom’s of America and Veterans situations, and they were in town last week and the attorney
general in our State, called attention to this event, and hardly anyone showed up at all.
We are like chocolate soldiers now, we melt at the first sign of supposed authority. And if the perception of control is implied, then many will give up their freedom’s for a false sense of safety.
Our home is paid for, and we have no real debt. We are as prepared as possible, but always willing to improve on it. Yet, the most important preparation, is to be guided by the One whom created all things, and gives life itself. The Father of us all, who guides, protects and sent us here for a purpose and may we all join together in the realization, of who is really in control.
I enjoyed the comments that were submitted and for your efforts in helping others to come to awareness and self sufficiency.
Blessings to your family and all those who wish to make a difference,
Ron
I have already done that. I have a business ran out of my home, Actually have been self-employed since 1972 and have started and sold several business since then. I do the garden thing and can, freeze, and dry the abundance so the old grocery store sees little of my bucks ALL WINTER LONG! My meat, eggs and dairy come from a local NON-GMO farm. And from that I also make my own butter, noodles and the best TV dinners money can’t buy! And I definitely do with less and don’t miss it a bit. Drive a 10 year old clunker, haven’t seen a movie in a theater since the Titanic played the dollar joints and maybe if lucky, eat out once ever couple of months. I cut my own hair and do my own nails, while others get this privilege on my tax bucks. Not to mention they are eating, dwelling and going to school on MY TAX BUCKS! Then there is that OBAMACARE CRAP! There is more wrong hear than you are addressing. Yes, I agree, cut our energy cost for sure, but what about the rest of it? We as a nation are screwed and solar is not going to fix it.
Too bad our current government can’t apply the same values to our country and the budget. Live within your means. We the people have to improvise to survive while they steal and take our labor and stuff crap down our throats. You got a wake up call I guess, but the rest of the sheep are still ASLEEP!
Thanks for sharing. My family went through the same thing during the recession in the late 70s and early 80s. My husband lost his job. We did move to a different state. There were a lot of tears. The house was lost and almost the car, too. Thought for a while that the young children might have to go live with relatives. That seems so long ago now but I am much stronger and will never cry again over things! The world if full of abundance. When something leaves your life, something else will come in. I ended up in a job I loved and worked there 30 years. Only just retired this year.
God bless you and your family. Thanks for helping readers become for self-sufficient. I’d certainly like to grow in that direction so I will keep reading and trying new things. (:-)
Frank,
I have been through the same thing as you, starting in Febuary 2005. I was about half way through building my house. When I started the house, I had in mind to build it so I could heat it with a candle and cool it with an ice cube, well I missed a little bit but I am able to keep it cool with 2 8000 btu window units. I built the house using under floor hot water radiant heat which I would recommend to any one. I had planned to use propane to heat the water and then the price of propane went out the roof, so I went with electric for the first winter and decided I could not stand that. I built a water stove out of a 250 gallon fuel tank and odds and ends of metal I had laying around and it works great and my power bill is the lowest I have had in 30 years when I have it running, it also heats my domestic hot water so I can take a free shower any time I want. I am looking to solar too at least be able to run my pumps off the grid. I would like to get totally off the grid someday. Thank you for offering the chance. I built the house myself and paid for the materials as I went along, so I do not have a house payment and finally got a C/O from the building inspector. We are able too live with a lot less needs.
Thanks
Robert
God bless you Frank. I went through a similar situation. I have less. I need less. I want less. I need to build my own solar panel on my roof so i can tell Missouri Gas Energy and Kansas City Power and Light to stick it in their tailpipe. God bless all of America as we navigate these crazy waters of Socialism and the narcissists in Washington, nearly all of whom should be imprisoned, beginning with Barry Soetoro, a.k.a. Barack Obama.
Thanks for being so honest with me, us, dear Frank. I truly hate to see what has happened to a country which I have grown up in, and have loved. I cannot even convince my own family, including my husband, to pay attention to the times and changes we now face. Most Americans are asleep in their lives, and just roll with the punches. Their attitudes are whatever~ I run several groups on Facebook along with having the max of friends, and begged them not to elect O for pres. I believe he runs the MB, and that we are in deep danger from the inside out.As a journalism and psyc major I know the dangers of losing our freedom of speech, and our news media is already bought out be SA. Tomorrow truckers will ascend on W. D.C. to stand for We The People~ Let’s pray they will do some good. Many criminals hang there. When my food from you arrives, my husband will go nuts. I only pray I can find somewhere to hide it. Thanks and God bless~It’s hot in Fl. If we lose power, I have nowhere to keep this food cool.
I faced very same thing while my wife was in 8th month of pregnancy so I know exactly how you and your family felt. It took 6 months for me to get back on the saddle also tnx to my very supportive wife. Now I am working in one big international company and making good money but I admire your braveness to grab things in your hands and start your own business. You fought for freedom for you and your family.
Difference btwn me and you? I am talking (and preparing) smart. You are acting smart.
Wish you & your family all the best in the future
Good luck to you and your family.I also have a garden which i feel the best feeling you can have is giving what you have grown to people that are less fortunate than you.May god bless your whole family.
Thanks Frank. Good advice and well stated. I have begun and plan to continue. A little late in the year to start a garden here in Michigan but there are certainly other things I am doing! More self reliant Americans means a stronger America!
Best Regards,
Dan French
I have been considering starting my own little cottage industry, reloading ammo. I already do it for myself and a few personal friends. Being a disabled vet can make working for someone else haed because of the tax accounting.
We lost our house after trying to be self-sufficient after corporate shutdowns in Oregon and moved to VA to start over. And now my husband is furloughed because he contracts for the Gov. It’s not getting any better-another reason to have food on hand. (Which hasn’t arrived yet.)
Carol
Thank you for sharing your story with me , God bless you anyour family Ingeborg Snider
We hear you – and it is our hope to be self sufficient too–we had a daughter die in April leaving two teens” one turning 18 on the day of her mother’s death; the other in College in Texas- I am outraged that after paying all those Social Security taxes from her business- her youngest got $1200 from the govt (of her mother’s taxes) and was told “good luck -you are now an adult–no dreams for you- and to the other, I had to relay the news: “breaks my heart to tell you- we can no longer afford to help you to stay in Texas to go to school…you must come home…and we are still in the adjustments of getting the two on their feet, contributing to their bills; but above all – no time to grieve- just hit the floor running- We lost the business assets; Cd’s to the IRS…no $$$ to pay lawyers to go after something I had NO idea about (her business)..so we were left with 16,000 for the lifetimes of these two just entering adulthood teens…So I have been earnest at teaching them fugality! (canning, gardening…)it has been -as you say- scary- but with God’s help, we will be better than we are now…doesn’t help that America is broke and bleeding!
Same thing happened to me. I really just want my survival kit . i feel for yall
I am 60 years old and have just gone to work part time, therefore my income has been cut in half. I have a mortgage and other bills just like the rest of America but I am doing the best I can. I have an RV I am paying for and can hardly wait til I can collect my social security that I have been paying into for over 46 years. I am in the process of planting my own veggies and luckily my mother was born in 1912 and taught me how to make break, can, sew and do a lot of other things. I am going to be fine because I am a survivor. May GOD bless all of us in our endeavors and hopefully those of us that care can help bring our country back together.
Ditto to all.
Thanks for sharing your story. I am a retired (on a small income) and my health is not the best. I ordered the Platinum P4P and anxious for it to arrive. I hope is easy and simple to create and NOT expensive parts or may never see it built. I will have to see if my son 2 hours away can assist me in building….and it will benefit him to build his own system.. Thanks
There is nothing new INRE your reason(s)/reasoning(s) except,,If you need to earn $$$$$$ Or whatever no matter how simple/desires you have you will always be dependent on someone/something(even if you go the criminal”way”)to get those $$$$$$$/life sustaining needs etc.,Complete independency is a pipe dream,planting your own garden/raising your own animals for meat on the table,chickens for eating/eggs”depends”on your own stamina/or paying someone to do it(depends on your source of income)..Saving for your retirement/hardship(s)begins @”birth(?).Of course like a lot of folks live off government programs(Government stands for all the hard working people who are paying Taxes.What is the current count of those on Government(taxpayers)programs,,fifty(50)million..Lots more could be writen on this/these and other subjects,but will not matter until ALL tax paying voters wise-up and get out and vote,bring”about”term limits for all who want to run for an elected office..Look at our nation,,,,ILLEGALS/ALIENS/CRIMINALS have more rights than the law abiding citizens..Term limits,,,if the electees want longer limits,then they govern for all the people,not for themselves or a select few/group..
im a 28 year old father of 3 and my job hangs in the balance. my wife and I aren’t able to work due to the fact that we both contracted staff infection and are scheduled for surgery to remove multiple abcesses that came literally from nowhere. our rent is due and our power is in danger of being cut off in two days. our children are in the hands of a temporary custodian and we are constantly reminded that we will lose our children if any of the above happens. im hoping I can make something happen with this so I can get my family back and turn our financial situation around.
Sounds like a Good Argument as to why we need Socialism. Capitalism = Cannibalism.
Even if you win the Rat Race it still makes you a Rat.
Frank, The main reason I purchased Power 4 Patriots was the fact that I to was there. I had to depend upon the Government when I was Laid Off, and the Unemployment compensation did not even come close to covering our monthly expenses. And, then again when Hurricane Sandy Struck the East Coast, and everyone was watching New Jersey and New York get hammered, my neighborhood in Suburban Cleveland, Ohio was left in the dark for over six days. Due to a tree falling in high winds onto a utility pole. The pole caught on fire when the transformer shorted out. 66 other homes were in my same situation. When we asked for help, NO ONE, I repeat NO ONE, was there for us. FEMA, was busy in N.J. and N.Y. , Local Governments had NO plans in place, to deal with Hurricane Damage. Why would they this is Cleveland, on Lake Erie, and Not Florida. The Local News Dubbed the Storm Damage from Sandy as “The White Hurricane”, since it also caused massive snowfalls. My neighbors had to stay at Hotels, with Family, or in a Cold and Dark house. I was Lucky! I own a Motorhome, and It had a full propane tank, and fully charged Battery Bank. I had a warm and lighted place to stay with my family in my driveway for six days. I also, decided at that point that the Government and Utilities were NOT dependable when times got tough. I hope to not only get a backup solar system for my home, I hope to help the other 66 neighbors that were left in the dark with me. I am also an inventor. And, using the knowledge I have of the way RV lighting systems are designed, I built L.E.D. lighting that can be used with Solar to immediately take my Lighting needs completely off the Grid. More details as they develop. Thanks Again Frank.
Thanks Frank! My husband and I too are educating ourselves to become more self sufficient. Growing a small garden, hunting and even foraging a bit. Would love to have chickens, a milk cow, a hog and beef cattle, too. We bot both work full time and have aged parents and have a hard time finding extra time to do all the things our heart desires. So glad for you and yours that you Know Him and the power of His resurrection! Carry on! Thanks for Being!!
Cindi Estep
Been working on it. The more prepared I am the less prepared I feel.
Been there too, Frank, both spouses losing their jobs on the same day.
I am not self reliant on energy, but now, I am self reliant for the paycheck; we have our small little enterprise and we do better than when we worked for someone else. And we do not have employees (just the 2 of us) because we are not in love with the «boss« role play.
I bought your materiel on CDROM and look forward to receive it. I might not become self-reliant yet (not much place in the middle of an urban environment to install a wind turbine :) but we might end up living outside the city. All I need for my work is my brain, good customers who love working with us and an internet link to stay…linked :),
I really believe in being self-sufficient and I believe like you that my goverment is not working towards helping every family achieve this goal (we live in Canada).
Continue your good work. Your business is doing a lot of good for others.
Best regards
Claude
Thank You for Sharing, Caring, and Helping others know they are Not Alone. These Life Events Can and Do Happen but, WE Can Make it Through with Faith and Goodwill.
God Bless Us All!
*He Gave US the Seeds.
It Is up to US to Plant Them!
Thanks Again! <3
Hi Frank, I’m glad you had the strength to press on inspite of the major set backs. All lot of folks these days just rollover and give up. Congratulations on your hard work and its positive outcome. I too am trying to get off the grid or at least find some reduction on my electric bill. For the moment, I have a fairly good job but like you, I am well aware that could change at a moments notice. Our company has seen HR personnel doing the same to at least 5 other workers here (called in and walked off the property) in the last month. It scares me to death! My motivation for getting free of the electric company’s hold is due to my wife’s very serious medical condition. Her body does not regulate heat properly and she goes in the heat exhaustion/heat stroke symptoms at any temps above 70 deg. That is not good especially when you consider we live about 100 miles east of Phoenix, Arizona. It gets HOT here! In the summer, the costs of air conditioning my home to maintain the temps she needs to survive are tremendous. My electric bill varies between $725 and $1350 per month in the summer and early fall. I realize a good portion of that is due to my older A/C unit and that it is not as efficient as it should be. Nonetheless, its all I have to use and I cant afford a new system with a higher seer rating YET. I did purchase two newer more efficent models but still cant find anyone to install them in my remote small town. I will have these installed, but I will also begin implementing changes to make some of my own power (a little at a time). Thanks for all the information to help me see the path I need to begin going down. Good luck in your business and thanks again! J. Falquez, Globe, Arizona
I’M SORRY ABOUT YOUR WIFE”S HEALTH.I HAD SEVERAL HEALTH PROBLEMS.I CHANGE MY EATING HABITS AND USE NBN SUPPLEMENTS. I’M HAPPY NOW.
I am proud of you and your wife. I am 79 years old. I live very comfortably on a $2500 a month TRS pension. I just harvested a lot of cucumbers, squash, and tomatoes grown in my back yard. I gave away a lot of cucumbers because I could not pickle them all. I have my freezer full of small containers of steamed squash. I do not believe in debt. I paid cash for my car. I do not buy anything I cannot afford to pay for. i maintain an emergency fund of $3,ooo or more. My supplementary health insurance is free because I have chosen an $1800 deductible. My funeral is paid for. . I have long term care insurance that is only $50 a month because I started it at age 60. You and I have a lot in common. I am ready for the rapture of all true believers or my death whichever comes first. I hope you also trust in Jesus as Savior and Lord. All the material practical preparations are important. The most important thing is to be prepared for eternity. This earthly life is very short. Heaven or hell are forever. Love to all, Bobbie Sena
Yes I have been in really bad financial down. fall I fell your pain an I have 4 children and it has been hard. I am so tired of paying a huge elect. Bill every month in the summer to stay cool and winter to stay warm! I almost did’t try this but,I just want this so badly I could see it so we shal see. I know this can work but the problem I am now facing is getting this going I don’t know if I can do this myself I am 56 years young and not the smartest ( oh did I mention I am a women)? My husband is disable and I don’t believe he is physical able to get this going but I have to try some how.I believe my Father can do anything there is nothing to big for him to do I have to trust in him and , I do . Thanks for giving us some hope this is something we have alway’s wanted . God bless you and your family !
Dear Frank, I appreciate you telling us about this I know its not easy to do such things. My husband and I have a goat farm plus about 48 hens we get 26-40 eggs a day, I look forward to the day we are off the grid! I am trying to start my own online business but all I get is here try this for free and this one for free ,and you know what there is nothing in this world like that for free. So if anyone has any ideas I sure would appreciate it. Thank you again Frank for all you have done and God Bless you and your family. Sheryl C.
I understand when it seems like all the work you do goes unappreciated Frank. My name is Denis and I’m a garbageman. Been doing this back-breaking work for 10 years now, and now hitting the “40” mark, the job is getting harder and harder for me. I know that I can’t keep this kind of work up forever and the bosses tend to frown on us “older guys”. I want to become more self-reliant and less dependent on the government. I absolutely despise lazy, welfare-dependent people! I realize there are those that really need it to survive and they know who they are. Just tired of the system Frank and I want to be as self-reliant as I can. I just want to thank you for all the info you put out for us God-fearing, hard-working Americans! May God continue to bless you and your family Frank!
Hi Frank,
I totally agree with everything you said. I live in a condo and have it up for sale because I cannot be as independent as I want to be. I am from the generation of self reliance. I want to move to a more tax friendly state, not NJ where I am now, have a garden, chickens, generators, and what ever else I can think of to be totally self reliant. You need some land for that, which I do not have at present. This is the way all of America needs to start thinking very quickly. I am for guns 100%, and hopefully will only be necessary to shoot game for food. Hooray for you, I am with you. I lost my job in Dec. 2012 also. I get it.
Your listener,
C. Shea
Not sure this is for me. I live deep in the woods. I do not get any sun or wind but I would llke to continue receiving information just to educate myself on what is available
Been there 5 different times. Always get back up.
Hi Frank, It’s always hard when someone gets a sucker punch.
I’ve been there and back also.
I do believe also in being a person who is self reliant.
I wish you all the best, and continued success.
Your friend,
Dennis J. Greger
Mr. Bates,
I can truly appreciate & sympathize with what happened to you & your family.
With these few words “Been There, Done That”! I’ve been through some things in my life, but none as frightening as not knowing how you will care for & meet yours & your children’s day to day needs……food to eat, a roof over your heads & power to heat the home you’re living in.
Going from a nearly lifetime marriage, over 20 yrs, & having my spouse walkout/walkaway from me & our children, after I had become ill with a chronic, incurable & eventually terminal disease, it was very hard to “pick myself up by the bootstraps”. But, I did & I cannot imagine my life any different than it is now! Less “STUFF & THINGS” in our lives, really make you appreciate what’s around you! Your loved ones, & going about the business of “Living Life”!
I love the idea of being as “off the grid” as possible & I’m very thankful for people like yourself. I’m on some medical equipment now, that when the power goes down with an outage etc…..I’ve got approximately 1.5 hours of oxygen time, then I’m S.O.L. Per the power company.
Again, I want to thank you & those like you for the work you’re doing to help those of us in the country who are tired of having our strings pulled like puppets.
Keep up the “R & D & the Results”, that lead to the good work you’re.doing!
God Bless You & All Of Yours!
Renee H.
Best of luck to your family and yourself. I likr your attitiude.
I understand your situation and have had a similar road. I worked the same job for 25 years only to have it sold and resold and each time making my salary start over. I left that job for a state Government position because of the job security but as my luck usually runs, shortly after starting this new career the economy took a dive and along with that came wage freezes, days off without pay and benefit packages going way beyond affordability.
I took an early retirement or face layoff and my family and I are doing all we can to trim the fat. We are growing what we can and really hope we can become independent, using your “start small” method and add on.
I will keep you informed of our progress with the solar system as soon as we receive the package and get it rolling!
Wishing you all the best!
Frank I know the feeling getting laid off treat you like a criminal escort you off the property but yet they want you to give them a two week notice if you quit(double standard) if you look at all the financial institution that failed and went bankrupt the people who do the work get the shaft and the people who screwed it up get millions for being inept .the working class in this country better wake up and smell the coffee.the biggest problem we have in this country is our leaders are all greedy and only care for themselves it doesn’t matter what party you vote for they are all the same.the only way to beat the system is be independent and not relying on any government to take care of your needs.Best of luck to you and your family
Paul
I am 65 yrs old. The only times I have ever given any kind of notice before leaving a job and/or fulfilled the notice time, was if there were any possibility if I may return to that company in the future. People are led to believe that they owe some kind of allegiance to the company they work for. All you owe them is a good days work for the pay they give you. Very few companies and certainly no corporations actually give a crap about their employees. And anyone that counts on the people in Washington or their local government to take care of them are complete fools.
Thanks Frank for what you are doing to help us get and remain more self-sufficient.
Frank: Just wanted to let you know, that sometimes trying to get to a simpler way of life is harder than it looks. My wife and I moved from Vermont four years ago, just to maintain jobs and get about a month more of growing season. Now in Massachusetts and eventually will leave within five years for an even simpler life. We understand the need to simplify and maintain something more manageable with life in our blended family of four that now range from 27-30. Corporate American can never provide what you really need, your family. Best to you, and am awaiting Solar Progam. Lynn
Thanks, Frank for sharing this part of your life. It will surely encourage people in like situations
to not give up and just keep on trying. Our faith has a lot to do with what we accomplish and
makes us stronger. Its what will get us through the “rough” days ahead. We just have to
know and believe like our forefathers — we need to get back to why we came to America in
the first place. Stop our “leaders” from disecting our Constitution. I think its too late to close
our borders. Its time to reflect on where we went wrong and concentrate on how to get back
in God’s good grace and repair the damage thats been done. One Nation Under God.
kdc
I know wought you went though. I have been there. For amatter of fact I’m not far off that point now.
Frank,
My family and I have been right in the same footsteps.
I was a High Tech Site Manager when I got tapped. Your Hatchet man must have moved around to my former firm. I lost my life savings, gave up the house with all my hard earned equity, killed the 401K and sold our 2 new cars. It basically reduced me and the wife to a position I was in when I graduated.
I’m a fighter, we did the same as you, if it wasn’t a necessity, it was off the payment list. We bought a 36 Acre Ranch in the mountains with our remaining money. We are way off the beaten path and the place is yet to be our home. While still maintaining an existance in New Mexico we long to move to our remote homestead. Power 4 Patriots is part of our solution. Our place in the mountains is sustainable if we focus our resources as P4P suggested. I still have not yet sifted through the CD you sent but now I’m wishing we would have got the Platium Package.
I’m an Engineer and a Sr. Equipment Designer in the Semiconductor Field so I’m not overly challenged with building it myself. I’m pretty sick of the Liberal Adjenda and the Socialistic Govt. we are now under. Change can’t come soon enough to suit me. Only the smart people will survive. It is time to be independent. It is way past due that Americans begin to be like our hard working ancestors. This is where my heart is today. Thanks Frank for the Wakeup Call.
Keep up the good fight. We are there.
Harvey
Frank, Thanks for your story, I guess we all have one. I am self employed . I started my own Co. 5 years ago. I work in Pest control. No matter how bad the economy gets when someone sees a rat or a cockroach ,bedbugs, mice, hell I could go on forever. They will do without the luxuries . Me and my wife also have had a garden for years. We are doing alright, not rich by any means, but not poor either. We have a plan and to get off the grid would be great help. Thanks , Tom schumacher
I’m always looking to better myself & when I seen your ad, I was curious. I’ve been (sort of) interested in solar energy but did not want to lease & buying well a bit expensive. I’m not a handy-man (builder) but I was an electronic tech. for 20 yrs. I understand electronic theory but only applied it to circuit boards, phone switches for AT&T, Pac Bell, Lucent, etc. I’m also the only bread winner. My wife got cancer in mid 90s & again in 06. So as you see I’ve had to hustle & bustle to make ends meet. I’ve been trying to fly under the radar since the 70s when I tried to fight “Uncle SAM”! They brutally slammed me with no mercy! so here I am now in my 60s wondering how I can save a buck & cut my cost of living before my body gives out. As you see I teach a very good system of martial arts which supplements my income. (not a declared biz). thank you, I hope I can make a go of this. Money has always been tight(last 20 yrs.) BUT I gotta keep reaching out & trying. I’VE TRIED NUMEROUS ways & businesses. I’VE STARTED READING YOUR MANUAL. It’s a good start, I’ll see where it leads me. THANKS AGAIN, Frank
I’m a 19 year old college student trying to get by on a part time job and 15 credit hours. My family moved out to a farm to loosen up some money and give my brother and sister a good start. Thank you for searching and organizing a program that is easy to follow on clean energy. It’s been a real life saver on myself and my family.
I recently became a member of P4P and am excited and patently waiting to receive all the products and information about creating my own power dependency. I presently work for a major steel producer and trust me, bigger is not always better. I was raised a farm boy and later experience manhood during the military draft era. Thank you for sharing your personal walk and the beginning of my new exploration of dependency. Even at age 60 (6/27/13) I am excited to learn that the old basic rules of survival have not been forgotten and new techniques are available to such as I.
I to am in the same boat. I lost my job 6 months ago and still looking. that’s why I invested in your program. I hope I can get back on our feet soon.
I’ve been there tho now I have a good paying job. Already have the plans in motion for a garden. I live in central Texas in a small town Florence. I do also live on septic and get water from a well. I will be off the grid in a year. But will continue to work as chickens and feed cost not alot but still cost money. Also have a good FFA organization at the local high school so having cows and pigs are something I’m looking into. One thing I can tell folks out there is rabbits have the best meat to money ratio. Thanks Chad B’s
I am working on writing, which I hope will turn into a second income – before TSHTF.
I am a divorced, 68 y.o. BLACK mother of three sons, and I am fed up and just like each of you is fed up. If I could win a lottery (I’m on a small SS check each month), I would buy a motor home, pack up my books, charcoals and artpads, and a few pairs of jeans and some grungy boots, my pots and pans, and move to some wilderness up in the Tennessee mountains. Why do I write you? With sincerity and my love, I hope to show you that it is not just COLOR or RACE that is screwing up this country, and that not only are YOU angry, so am I and many of my FB friends (Greek, Caucasian, Korean, Chinese, Jewish, Hispanic) and some members of my family! I don’t know if my attempt will be futile, but I hope you will listen.
I and my sons (and Mama/Grandma) have lived our lives as the target of racism by our “own people”. Either our skin was too fair (my grandmother was 1/2 white, and so was my biological father) or our hair too straight, so we have been treated worse by our ‘own people’ than by “whites, browns, yellows”. Especially when it came to jobs. In fact, I have been treated better by people of other “races”. You would think just the opposite. Having a black president does not give me or my good sons any advantage when it comes to corruption and greed in Washington and the state/city. We are in financial and emotional pain just like you. I need you in my life, and I hope I can be of help in mine when the time comes.
I am certain that neither race nor color is not the issue…it is ignorance, and abuse of “power” that is hurting you AND me. OUR SILENCE AND SEPARATION ONLY FEEDS THE MONSTER. We came together to protest against Monsanto and GMOs – in person and on FACEBOOK. “Patriots” of every color/race did this.
I am a “Patriot”, too. Maybe I am naïve, and maybe you will ask “What the hell is she writing this for?” or you will laugh at me, but – I DO get proud tears when I am standing, singing the National Anthem. I DO get pissed when people don’t know the words, or take their hats off. I DO get pissed at the lazy damned parents who did not spank or punish their bad-assed children that are breaking into people’s stores and homes and then are let loose by crooked police and court systems; I am ashamed by them! I DO say thank you to every single serviceman/woman I meet in the grocery store. Again, I need you in my life, and I hope I can be of help in yours if/when you need me.
As a divorcee, and since the predictions of Y2K, I’ve insisted that my sons learn to do other skills and crafts to survive since the predictions of Y2K :sew, cook, grow vegetables, use a hammer and nails, repair computers and any electrical things, not be afraid of rain and cold, to collect and purify water; they fish and have even hunted. They grew up with strong work ethics since age 13 and were not gang-bangers and goof-offs. It may not seem much, but it is, considering our , rejections, challenges and culture. Forcibly retired by an OJInjury since 2007, I stay at the library or bookstore, or online trying to alert people about corrupt practices in government, ways to survive in this “economy” and finding Facebook friends of similar thinking, studying natural health and survival online – that’s how I found you today. THIS IS NOT TO INCITE TO RIOT. IT IS A CALL TO USE ALL OUR “ARMORY”, NOT JUST “ARMS”. I used to be on the side of the law – of what I believed was “good”),but it has been corrupted and twisted, and is abusive and crooked…not because we have a black president, but because we have have been so complacent and silent so long…not cried out, protested, boycotted, exposed, blown whistles…we have to find a way to work together! Please. Be blessed. Peace.
Being without doesn’t have a color only a circumstance. With this down turn the country is just now barely coming out of is the worse in my lifetime, and being divorced and. Children dealing with their own stuff 1200 miles away it’s not been easy on me either. I used to hrow a garden back when my health was better, and I loved it. I learned to can, and I froze stuff. The last year I planted a garden my health got to where the weeds took it over, and it broke my heart. I just started eating cheaper foods and like everyone here has done made out with less. I think it was Henry Ford that said when you fail at something, use it as an opportunity to start again. Just do it in a different way. I’m sure there’s been a lot of that going on!
Carol King … friend me, please, on fb ….
Bill Cowan, Sherman, TEXAS
I agree that our most challenging problems are not caused by our racial differences, but race-baiters exist in our society and they want to pit black people against white people and poor people against the achievers. This is their business. It’s how they make their money and gain power. I commend you for being able and willing to recognize that manipulation and for rejecting it.
You are correct that the corruption in our Government is not because our President is Black, it’s because our president, much of congress and most media are progressives who don’t understand what made this country great. They seek to bring us down to the level of other countries and rule over us all from their high perch in their New World Order. The Storm is Coming!
Thanks for sharing. I am a “let me do it myself” woman, and although theres little I can do where I am living now, someday I’d like to move on out and live in the wilderness, and just be me! I read all you have to offer and have done a lot of ordering from ya’ll, so feel I am a little prepared. Thanks for your help. Margaret ( patsy )
You have a happy ending, learned a lot and your kids will be better prepared for adulthood with their childhood experiences.
just kinda rough in the beginning
Frank, I appreciate your story about your life and admire you for your recovery and how you went about it.
Good for you, your wife and your family. Congratulations on taking command of things around you for your family but I also commend you for sharing what you have learned with others so perhaps they, too, can become more independent from energy suppliers.
Thank you and bless you and your family for being a real “stand-up” kind of guy.
I Haven ‘t been down the same path as yours but I understand and commend both you and you wife for being self reliant. I used to live in Columbus Georgia and worked for peanuts. I know of the Fat Cat syndrome that plagues us all. some us us get tired and look for ways to improve. So, with that being said….A Big Thank You.
Congratulations on pulling through and becoming more self sufficient. I to had a similar situation happen to me, resulting in having to go bankrupt and loosing everything I had. I started my own business and seven short years later, I was financially OK. I have been looking into alternate energy sources for a few years now, so I was very pleased when I read about your program and I am planning to institute many of your ideas in the near future.
Dear Frank, I have been touched by your story! It is true! I know because I have see it happen to so many people. My story is different, but with the same results. I am 75 years old. I was abandoned by my husband and was left with 4 children to raise. The youngest was 5-1/2 WEEKS old. My ex not only abandoned us, but took us to my mother’s house and left us, with the lie that he was bringing us there and was getting a new job. His “plan” was to move in with his folks and buy us a house. He even put all of our furniture in storage, but moved to California. I heard nothing from him until he called to give me a number for his attorney. He shut the door in our faces and did not look. (By the way, he was from a wealthy family who never helped us, even for the sake of the children).
I went to work, my mother who was divorced, took care of the children and we moved on. I worked at 3 jobs at a time, but we did not get food stamps or housing. Over the years my children grew up and moved away to their own lives, but I continued to work–even helping them financially. They are spread over the country and have their own lives. I have a son (the youngest) who connected with his father and now enjoys the benefits of having turned away from the rest of us. I have worked tending bar, cleaning toilet, selling real estate, working for a general contractor where I learned to frame houses, set tile, paint houses, tie re-bar etc. I have been doing home care for seniors. Today I am visiting my youngest daughter who lives in Florida and who is bearly getting by. My small Social Security check doesn’t go far. I am serious as a migrain. The desire of my heart is to buy a piece of land, off the grid, and build a straw bale house. I have chased every straw bale house in Southern Arizona and New Mexico. I have books and plans for a house and feel that even though I am 75, I can build it. I want to thank you for putting the icing on the cake for me by furnishing this information. It would seem that you are the MOST honest of all the people I have contacted who sell this information. Thank you and God Bless you and your family.
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Frank,
I totally understand the fear that you and your family suffered through during those hard times, because my family and I are currently going through a similar situation. I know that with hard work, the guidance of your wonderful program and the helping hand of our Lord and Savorier, we too will pull through these unforeseeable circumstances. Thank you again for your inspirational words and may the Lord bless you and your family.
Sincerely,
Jerry
Aloha! Mr. Bates thank you very much for sharing your testimonial about your life. And how you became more self reliant. I am a wife and a mother of 4 children. Lost the oldest at the age of 18 months. Living in a Hawaii everything is very expensive but i made it. My father was a man of always telling my mom to store food and always be prepared. Because one day the economy is going to drop and it is going to affect the whole world. My father died when i was 19 months old of cancer. My mother raise all 9 of us and we survived through out our lives it was not easy. I am the youngest of 9 children and there is 4 of us that living now. I have been a food and water and emergency specialist in the church for 9 years. I have learn many things and have attended many seminars and work shops. You have made the light very brighter for me to be more aware and to be more and more self reliant. I know about the government and the things that are happening and i love my country. But we will never know what is going to happen. I can’t wait till I receive your book so my family and i can get going with many things. Our families have started on storing food building chicken coops, rabbit coops and even starting there gardens and many more…we just need to get going on our energy OFF THE GRID. MAY GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR FAMILY Mahalo Nui Loa (Thank You) Katherine Book
Thank you Frank.
Look Frank, I bought your energy thing because my husband needed something to do and he loves building things and projects and saving money would be a bonus. We are not government hating liberals at all. In fact, I did not even realize who Glen Beck was until I saw him on the news speaking at the NRA. We are strong supporters of gun control and we are both very proud to be American citizens. My father was a WWII vet and I was raised to respect our leaders. I’m sorry about your personal issues, but all of us have challenges to overcome. My husband has traveled the world for his job and sometimes I was able to acompany him. If you spent some real time in other parts of the world it would make you grateful to be an american citizen. Yes, it is not perfect and there is much room for improvment, but we have the freedom to live our lives as we choose. And I will gladly remind you that we have that because of unselfish and brave people like my father who believed that there is no greater honor than to represent our country. One nation, under God
Frank, I really envy you! When my company did it to me, they did it to 20 avionic specialists. (we were working on a super secret weapon). What the company did NOT tell us is that we were being placed on a “do not hire” list. None of us got another job anywhere.
Today I would love to go to work for Lockheed or Boeing with one obsession: DESTROY the bastards that laid us off.
I have had limited success trading stocks and managing a small investment fund, since being fired I have gotten three U.S. patents (in telescope optics), become active politically, become disgusted with the party, had time to practice my flute and oboe a bit.
I do have limited income, but with my wife’s income we have enough. We have zero debt, except to our parents for giving us life. Our son had finished his education (math PhD, unemployed with a wife and two babies), and is now ready to get his educated.
I am blessed with a beautiful girl who makes zero financial demands on me and who keeps me interested even with plenty of younger women around (I can’t stand the tattoos and nose rings). So what if she’s a former Chi-Com; she’s one of ours now. And Americanizing her sure was fun!
I would suggest that survivors learn to live cheap, save money, stay out of debt, and review the old Disney cartoon, “The Ant and the Grasshopper”. THAT is what made me into a survivalist.
Thanks for sharing your story..I’ve never had a whole lot…but very blessed and I’m going to downsize even more. I’ve raised all of my children to be able to take care of themselves…I knew I wouldn’t be around forever.
And I’ve raised my sons to be husbands and fathers…not sons
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Thanks again
Linda
Been there , that is when I became an investor in many different types of enterprises;multifamily & commercial properties, co oping with farmers, hunters, tradesmen, solar interests, and bartering
networking. My family defense alternatives have been heavy cash flow , but I am highly struck
with other streams that can be protected from government over site. I believe the market is going
to change dristically soon rather later. I will be all ears tonight.
Sincerely,
J. H.
Frank,
Thanks for sharing, it is comforting to know that there are others out there who have gone down that rough road and like you said “came out the other side”, wiser for the experience. We also have had a difficult time but now are seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. My husband and I are both anxious to get started on this project to produce our own energy and get off the grid. We are looking forward to receiving the information to do just that.
Thanks,
Crystal
Frank,
I completely understand. 20 yrs ago my husband and I were in the same position. Now we face a similar situation. I am now on disability, cant afford to work because we cant afford for me to lose my medicare yet I only get 490 dollars a month. And they take a 130 of that for the medicare insurance. We can barely make our house payment and our utilities. I can’t wait until we can finally put a solar system together. It will take a while because we have to buy a few things at a time. But I am sure it will be worth the wait.
Frank,
Great story and even better advice!
Thank you and best regards.
At almost 86, I’m waiting for those tomato seeds to arrive so I can start planting! Thanks very much!
Good article. Makes on think and also even though their are tough times, God is helpful and Good.
Because of a postponed road project that was supposed to go through my building, the state had asked me to shut down and move–then with NO notification postponed the project, I had started to shut down and be ready to move–turning down business for the move, the state cost me all of my savings. Along with this economic downturn caused by the political hog scat we depend on to operate this country(politicians not statesmen), things have been all but impossible to survive. I am very anxious to get started with this program. We as citizens had better be cautious of big brother and look at being self sufficient as possible, and vote in a new set of managers of OUR republic. I am sure we all can be helped by each other, to survive what our politicians are doing against us. Americans have always been able to overcome obstacles and to succeed even with such burdens as placed on us by the so called leaders—-regulators.
Because of a postponed road project that was supposed to go through my building, the state had asked me to shut down and move–then with NO notification postponed the project, I had started to shut down and be ready to move–turning down business for the move, the state cost me all of my savings. Along with this economic downturn caused by the political hog scat we depend on to operate this country(politicians not statesmen), things have been all but impossible to survive. I am very anxious to get started with this program. We as citizens had better be cautious of big brother and look at being self sufficient as possible, and vote in a new set of managers of OUR republic. I am sure we all can be helped by each other, to survive what or politicians are doing against us. Americans have always been able to overcome obstacles and to succeed even with such burdens as placed on us by the so called leaders—-regulators.
Frank; Your e-mails are helpfull. I’m just starting out, still just thinking about things. You are correct on this great country coming on bad times. If you pay attention it’s all around to see. I’ve been blessed with a great life and a great wife, so thinking about hard times is hard for me , and impossible for my wife but I can imagine them. I’m going to do a little at a time so wish me luck. Looking forward to more of your wisdom.
Bob L.
frank: always read your articles (unlike some that I delete immediately) and am grateful for what you are doing. I am a child of the depression, although my family never suffered as many did. I learned early on, though about being careful with things and not wasting anything that could be re-used. young people today have no idea about how things could become. I’ve always canned everything I could and love my freezer, too. I received my tomato seeds and can’t wait to plant them. please keep up the good work and God bless.
I read your report and wish you good fortune.
I am still waiting for my tomato seeds. I tried to grow tomatoes in the past without planting the small
purchased plant into my yard soil by using a clay pot filled with store bought soil but lost them to a bug called nemotodes. I then bought a bug powder to protect against nemotodes without success.I mention this to advise I am not a patient grower so if your seeds need a lot of attention you can cancel my order.
Thank You
Sounds familiar Frank, we have a lot of medium size business here in Oregon that use temp
people and say they might turn full time but almost always terminate just short of full time positions.
I was injured on the job in 83 and forced to retire in 94 so we have a little in common. a great wife is sure a big comfort.
sounds like you’r making the best of a bad situation and came out on top. the good old USA needs
more people that thinks outside the box.
God bless,
Jim
Hi Frank,
OH Boy that sounds a lot like what I went thru back in the economic down turn in 1984. The company I was working for was bought out by another, they visited the small branch I was employed at and closed the whole shop down. Believe me, Grays Harbor County, Washington State wasn’t much fun at the time, everyone was hurting. After I went thru 2 years of difficulty, I took a job, then found the employer I am with now. It has taken 26 years with this outfit but we put it all back together again.
Our children are raised, doing well, the wife and I are still together after 36 years so now we are embarking on an adventure of home building. That is why I am so intrigued about your low cost solar systems. I have a small 5 acre plot out in the county, gardening is something we do, also teaching the grandchildren how we do it. Do the chickens, you will find this enjoyable, possibly profitable, and mostly quite tasty. We have raised chickens, and turkeys, even tried goats. Don’t recommend that last one, after they clear your brush get rid of them. LOL I and sure we will be staying in touch. If I can’t manage to get completely free from the grid I do intend to make the meter run backwards.
God Bless and All the Best
Bill
Bill
Already started my garden and learned years ago to do without “things”. Thanks
I wonder how many of us who are drawing Social Security, have pensions, or live on retirement savings realize how quickly these safety nets can completely disappear in a financial crisis – and with them, the ability subsist. Your story is just a preview of what can happen to any one of us, Frank. There are those who think that preparing for potential disaster is paranoid, but I say better safe than sorry. As a rabid gardener, the last two record breaking hot summers have been tough, so we’ve started looking into aquaponics as well. A seed vault was the very first thing we bought for our stockpile of “just in case” supplies. Your experience is a testament to the human spirit, the bond of family and the ingenuity to find a way, Frank! Bravo to your and your wife!
Thank you for that, as I guess there are a lot of us out there. I too was working in an office as Chief Financial Officer until one day my boss gave me a severance check and told me the Federal Audits were concerning him and they had decided to outsource the Accounting department to a private firm. At my age it is not easy to be reintroduced into the work community. I went to God in prayer. I became homeless, had my car repossessed and lost my credit rating. I kept studying and seeking the direction I was to take. I suddenly realized I was not the captain of my own ship that God was in control of my journey. I had to seek my fathers help. I had been so independent that I felt I was doing what God intended when I was not even listening. God took my hand, slowly we rebuilt. God blessed me more than I have ever been. I have help, a father God who cares and reaches out to steer me in the right direction. I turned everything over to him. I started obeying his commandments and ordinances but most of all I gave him control of my finances. I started tithing first. It is all his, and we need to remember that if we do not consider him financially first(because it is his) we will never succeed. I too am an independent but God is the Captain of my business. I am glad you had a partner that cared and helped you, It was just me, but I was not alone. Father God what an incredible journey. Want to hear God laugh, make plans.
Hi Frank:
Wery interesting experiece you had bat let mi tellYou iam from Chile and in 1976 after the Millitary
owertrough de comunist gowernement of Salvador Allende,things bekame wery bad i lost my job
like most of us ,so mi Wife an i bought a 35 aker farm to try tu surwive we build a small hause made
a wgstable garden raised sam chicken planted a lot of fruit trees boght an old chevy P.U.4 pigs and
no electricity.Then an old friend came one day for visit and told me abouth solar energie it made a lot of sense to me so i installed 4 big pannelles with 6 big truck batteries a regulator and an inverter and
the system worked for 25 years with mo mayor problems.In 2001 i sold the farm and kame to the
U.S. And bought a haus in Joshua Texas so i knouw a little of the subyect.
Best regards Henry Matthei. Exk. the bad ortogr.Bat iam 86 and have problems with.
Dear Frank,
I can totally relate to your story as in 2002 after having my disabilty VA Pension for 9 years and 11 months it was taken away and being a disabled veteran I was shocked the VA would do such a thing just 1 month short of 10 years. Therefore, had they tried to take it away 1 month later they would not have been able to do so because if you have it for a period of 10 years they are not able to take it from you. I too was left with a mortgage and truck payment and a daughter to get thru school. Since I suffer from severe PTSD I decided then I would never put all my eggs in one basket sort of speak and started growing our own gardens and cutting back on everything. Luckilly in March of 2011 I finally got the pension back to 100%, however, it was for the original trauma I had applied for when I got out of the service in 1981 but they did not give me the back pay they owed me. Thus, here I find myself waiting for the 10 year period again for my wife will get at least 1/2 of my pension should something happen to me before 2017 therefore, I am now fighting to get it back dated at least to 2002 so my wife will be protected if something were to happen to me. However, I can not depend on Big Brother so I have to continue to find other ways of saving money and I think going Solar is an excellent start. I was a jet engine mechanic in the Navy and tank mechanic in the Army and feel I can do this. Furthermore, shortly after getting out of the Navy in 1981 I actually spent 6 or 7 months selling solar units as in those days they offerred a 100% return of your investment on your taxes sort of like what they did a few years ago with the $8,000 refund they gave for being a first time home owner. A lot of people don’t know that New Mexico is actually the birthplace for solar energy. I am excited to get it started so I can become energy self sufficent and get off the grid. Thanks for the inspiration. I am sure we will be talking soon.
Respectfully,
Andrew Jackson Key III
Frank: My husband and I have been in a simalar situation. We lost our house, and everything. It has been about 10 years getting back, but thatnks to your plan and a whole lot of prayer we are getting there. Thanks for being brave enough to share. You are not alone.
Thanks for sharing , Frank. Your story struck a note with me because I am at a critical time in my own life right now. I have been privileged to have a very comfortable standard of living for the past 32 years, however, divorce and career changes have forced me to reevaluate the path I must now take. All my life I’ve embraced principles of conservation, simplicity and self-reliance…..now I have found through meditation and soul-searching that a spiritual energy is emerging through me….empowering me to find balance and harmony in my life. I believe that spiritual energy has somehow connected our lives and I am greatful for the value your expertise has brought to my life. Thank you for sharing your humble story and may God bless you and your family.
Frank I tip my hat to you and your wife. It takes a team to get through tough times. I started a company with an associate selling and installing Tankles Water Heaters . I loss everything due to the recession and some dishonesty from my partner. I know the pain that you experienced
Keep up the good work it sounds like found your passion. Regards Jeff
Tks Frank for writing. I’m 59 and certainly been on the grid since ever. My dad always planted a garden until he died. As a kid at home he always told me “boy you can’t eat out of paperbag”. When I married, my wife always grew a few things until bad health took her from me in 2000. Been on my own since; I like to say I’ve done ok but could be better. Glad I hit your button in FB that had that strange elctronic device in pix. Did not read what that was??? Waiting on order from you; will check it out and hopefully get some independence back. Understand, I’ve always thought about solar but thruout 70’s and 80’s I was in military, no permanent place then she got ill, etc, etc. I will try my hand at this and will contact you as I need. No better adviser than someone been there, done that.
I am sorry to say that I can relate to this situation. I had too had this happen to me. The employer let me go without warning or regard for my family or me. Their bottom line is always money!
It was a unpleasant Lesson learned!
You inspire me….we have good employment of which I am very grateful for…but we are not ignorant to the fact that we simply need to learn how to provide for ourselves. Your experience is very motivating….you made it thru a very rough time and you did it together….courage!!!!! Thanks for sharing and teaching all that you have learned…I am doing something everyday to make my family less reliant on govt and more on God and the work of our own hands….very rewarding!!!! :)
i know how u feel my wife got laded off her job a few weeks ago. Fortunately we got envolved with a company called Telezfree last d Dec. and now doing verywell and my wife dont have to work if she dont want to. But even now with this Obama and his bunch of terrerist friends nothings forsure ,thats why Im doing everything I can to get out of dept and self suffiecent as i can, i know things are going to geteven whorse. I cant beleave whats happening to our country.I cant waite for my books so i can see if im going to be able to do this.thank and good luck.
I need to add one more thing. I read many of the earlier comments and wow..no matter where people live, it’s pretty much the same. People struggle under the weight of trying to live and get by. I feel very blessed to stumble on your site one night on the computor. We are not alone it seems. May we all find strength in each other to endure hardships and prove to ourselves that we can survive on alot less. Stripping away most of the frills in our daily lives will allow us to get closer to the land and depend more on God above . Stop taking for granted that society will catch us when we fall, ha ha If people are willing to put in some extra work, God will make a way for us to achieve it. Even at this moment, I started to de-clutter our home. We won’t need so much ‘stuff’ in our lives, because that ‘stuff’ can not fill the void that always seems to have an empty bottom to it. Live life more simple and keep our eyes and thoughts on our creator. He will make a way and open doors in our lives to bring a peace that passes all understanding in a fast paced crazy world.
Frank, the reason why I’m looking into solar and all other things is pretty much the samething that you went through. When my husband lost his job of twenty years driving a truck, the company had sold out. The new owners got rid of most of the regular guys if they couldn’t speak French. If not, they made it miserable there so they would quit and find work elsewhere. While he had a pretty decent job, of course we expanded here, got more animals etc, dish, computor, a used tractor etc. Over night things changed. he is working now closer by but at half the wages and no benifets. We are thinking of selling our hobby farm because we can not keep up with everything now. Taxes and fire insurances etc, have gone through the roof. pissed off you can say. We hope we can sell our beloved place, pay off huge debts and start over across the road on our other piece of land. build a smaller home with no hydro etc. keep our dairy cow and few animals. Turning our back on most everything.Even if we can sell out, we need every cent to start from strach. We are no strangers to hard work. We build our barn and buggy shed from the trees from our bush. We build our home as well (by law, it had to be store bought lumber) ha ha I don’t know what this world is coming too. The stress is over whelming to say the least.We have had to willon our wheat we buy for our few hens and grind it tinto whole wheat flour to bake bread in our cookstove. We can make our own chees etc from our cow. People might think we are crazy, i say not. ha ha
What is the point??
EVERYBODY HAS A STORY TO TELL (ALL OF US)
God bless you and your family, and thanks for Power4Patriots!
Hi Frank, I am way ahead of you. I am 88 years old and still get around okay. I spent 22 Years in the military through three wars and retired in 1970. I carried a rural mail route for 14 years and retired in 1984. We had six kids and my wife never worked outside of the home. We had saved nickels and dimes because times were rough in the service. We had a net worth of about $20K in 1970. We bought 160 acres with good buildings for $45K, which was way too much at the time. We sold 62 acres for $31K and paid off the farm in 1973. We farmed it and had some cattle for a few years and then I rented the farmland out because the kids were starting to leave for college. I had a big garden and butchered a steer when we had cattle. We were close to being self sufficient except for the grid. We had a wood stove in the basement and also our own well. When I hit 80 I decided to sell out and move to town so that my wife wouldn’t have to deal with it if I kicked the bucket. Mistake! We bought a new townhouse for cash and moved to town. I still had a large garden out on the farm so we had plenty of produce to share with our kids and friends and plenty to freeze and can.We sold the farmstead with ten acres for $120K and we still have 87 acres left. I was recently offered $4,500 an acre for the 87 acres. We have a considerable stash of gold and silver in case of a cash in the economy. Now I am looking for a farmstead to try to get really independent of the rat race. We have a son who would live with us. That is where you came into the picture. I have been looking and studying for a long time and I hope I can make it happen before things blow up or I croak. My goal is to set up a haven for the whole family in case of an emergency. I have spotted a place that has 40 acres with a five bedroom house with a basement and chimney. It also has a well with a windmill. Nice, huh? I have been thinking about building a chicken coup with a trombe of rocks under it to keep it up around 50 degrees, using a 12 volt battery and rigging up a 12 volt wind mill and a solar collector. The hardware I would need is available locally. I think I can make a big solar collector. I plan to put in an orchard right away and also a big garden.if it works out. We have always lived quite conservantly and instilled in our kids to be hard working and thrifty. They worked their way through college and are all doing well. We have two engineers, a medical technologist, a Delta Airline pilot and a certified welder and millwright. Our daughter married an Air Force fighter pilot and he retired as a Lt Col. They all get along very well and all treat us as royalty so we are rich in every sense of the word. Joe Zdeb
Hay Frank and Michelle, I’m in Hesperia California, in the high desert. Here the summers are supper hot and the winters are often snowy. I am disabled and live with my daughter, her husband and their two daughters. I overheard my son-in-law talking over the phone about solar panels with his friend. When I saw your program on the internet, I grabbed it for him. My son-in- law has had two back surgeries and no longer can drive his truck on long hauls so they now depend on SSI Disability and money is real funny for them now. I haven’t told him that I purchased the program yet because I’m waiting for the manual to arrive in the mail. He will have plenty of help from his buddies and spiritual brothers putting up the solar panels; and, they will want to benefit themselves for their assistance. So, I’m sure they will be egger to help him. I’ll let you know how it turns out.
Frank-I am retired from the City of ft Lauderdale, Florida. I grew up very poor,we had an abundance of love and we always had a garden. I got a college education on my own and retired from the City of Ft Lauderdale, Florida 23 years ago. If you go thru hard times like I did and you did everything we have in life has more value. I am 82 years old, I am healthy, have two grown children(boy and a girl) and a healthy beautiful wife. I know you must be a good person by the fact when I thought I ordered the cheaper product you offered but somehow also ordered the more expensive one and you told me you wanted me to refuse the shipment so I would pay not, you were one of a kind. I wish you the very best in life. You deserve it.
Yours Truly,
Calvin Howe
Hi Frank,
Everything I’ve heard from you makes total sense to me! I’m a single lady, have a decent retirement but there is ALWAYS room for improvement! Doing for myself is a certain beginning and I feel as strongly as you do because of the man in our White House and all his coherts in the congress and senate and judiciary and all diplomatic positions etc, etc., etc. The way Obama is ruling is nerve shattering to anyone with half a brain and I am EXTREMELY concerned. I don’t like the directikon big money is headed AT ALL and feel even true and faithful christian communities are sitting on their larels just waiting for a handout. Remember his promise that there would be NO TAX hikes for the “affordable” health care plan??? Hmmmmmmm! Well that extends to many other factors in our lives and quite frankly I’m wondering why he was given a second chance at us. Hopefully you haven’t lost interest with the political jabber, was just making a statement to try to reason all this out.
It’s really hard to plant any size garden in the rock of a live volcano but that is MY intent. We get over 100 inches of rain a year on this side of the big island so that’s another factor added. All that you have proposed for our getting started on the road to independance carries a decent sized burden of some fashion here. Hope to be able to follow your plan and accomplish just that. Thanks for your help and encouragement.
Sincerely,
Janet Judy
Hawaii
Dear Frank,
Thank you for your story. I’ve been where you’ve been seven years ago. I committed myself to finding a way that I would not every work for anyone again in my life. Especially, corporate America. I have found a few ways to get by, and looking for other ways to be self reliant and sufficient.
Currently looking for Patriot Homes that are already built and some land to buy. I refuse to give those mortgage companies anything that gives them the say so over anything I’m living in. Also, I am refusing to live in a retirement home that is for profit.
Frank,
I have a little farm and am just like you barely getting along or not, but living from pay check to pay check. I Starred out thinking that I could make it through school at ISU I Tried two competitive programs with six children and a disabled; wife and son. It did’nt work for me and now with the same two jobs that I tried to get through school with I can really relate to you.
Here’s a tip: soft wheat and table scraps can keep your chickens laying eggs when you can not afford to buy layer mash. There is farm land all around me where I live. These farmers grow soft wheat and store it at a nearby silos sp? Where they spill it all over the ground. Have to run
Hi Frank,
I retired to care for my ailing husband. I found out that our government is more interested in killing us slowly. There are death doctors out there and they work for our government. Anyway I am always trying to save money. My husband drugs are very costly.
Hi Frank,
I too lost my job last June and unable to find a job to replace my income. I have been forced to give up the home I thought I was going to live in til the day I died. My foster daughter and I are living in a 1972 12 X 60 mobile home that has a couple of rooms added to it. I haven’t been able to get rid of the mice, ants, wasps and other critters that invade inside and I have holes in the eaves where squirrels get in and run the length of the attic. So please keep Linda and I in your prayers.
Marlene
Thanks for your story. We have navigated through 2 bad times. The first was somewhat like yours. The VP of operations showed up in my office and told me I had 10 minutes to clean out my desk and he would escort me off the property. After much embarrassment and searching for reasons I found out that my boss had stolen items from the company and I being the purchasing officer had “helped” him. I finally found a job and things started looking better. The second one came 8 years ago. I was working as purchasing officer for a coal company and noticed that I was having stress related problems. I finally talked to my Doctor about my health situation by asking him: if I retire now and go home to take better care of myself what could I expect? He said if I continued down my current path he didn’t think I would last 3 years. If I got rid of all the stress and took better care of my health I had 8 years or more. That was one of the easiest decisions I ever made. I went in to talk to my immediate boss and explained my situation. He said he understood then told me that the stress would be even higher in the next month advising me to retire as soon as possible. I talked to our human resources person who checked into my retiring due to disability. She first told me I would get 100% of my pay for the remainder of the year then 75% the next years. Sounded too good to be true. It was. Our companies owners were Australian. Since a portion of my disability was due to being a Vietnam veteran I would get nothing. I went to talk to the VA and qualified for 100% disability through them. The stock market crash in 2008 took all of my 401k/IRA so we had to live on a lot less money. We pared everything back that we could and are living alright now. Getting a 38% cut in my income was hard to take but you can do anything if you keep hoping and work at it..
Dear Frank,
My story is much like yours, except I was at my company for 21 and half years. I was also the Republican Chairman for the county I lived in. When they offered a drunk and a deserter as a candidate for president, I was done. King George and Prince Chaney let their cronies go a muck!! They almost bankrupted this country, just to kill Social Security!! Yep, right from the mouth of George Senior!! Well, because of my age and health, I’m barley surviving on my tiny pension, and…Social Security!! We too are moving to make our money go further, and guess where too??? Tennessee!! But, all of our money is tied up in our American Dream, our house. As soon as it sells we intend to move into either Henry or Benton County. No more city dwelling, nope it’s back to the country. We’re going for total independence. I’m a Vietnam vet. and ex-sniper. I am, and was, a very active gear head. Lately, back issues have slowed me way down. But far from stopped. Our country and it’s big businesses have become too material, and too mean. I intend to make my home as totally independent and safe from the Crooks, Thief’s, and Low Lives. That’s why I purchased your basic’s plan. I do have concerns about our electrical grids. Our Company’s put everything they make into their pockets and don’t do their share to maintain our grid or infrastructure. I fear our active sun these days, will damage our grid and then in three days all stores will be empty, no electricity, no food processing. Corporate greed has never been worse. Look what King George and company did to the Post Office, just to privatize it. Anytime you hear Privatize, think more money for Big Business and less service for the little guy and that includes schools and health insurance. I feel your pain, and glad to see your stepping up!! WE ALL HAVE TO STEP UP!! Our Congress is broken because of special interests and lobbyists!! No Congress has done less than this one, remember their mantra for their campaigns!! JOBS,JOBS, JOBS!! How many have the produced or voted for ZERO!! My Children and my Children’s Children are being used as SERFS for the Rich!! Little pay and very little progression so the Rich can get Richer and they keep us in our place…DOWN!!! If that’s not the English way of doing things I don’t know what is!!! CEO’s, Presidents, VP’s, and Upper management make either hundreds of thousands, Millions, or Billions of dollar’s. Blue collar workers average twelve dollars a hour!! There’s no longer the attitude of good pay and good future for good work. No, now it’s screw the worker and I want all the money!! That’s called GREED!!!!!! Our system of Government hasn’t changed!! It’s the I’m better than you attitudes, we’ve even had the Religious step on us because the fell Better than us or more affluent. I love this county, but we have to first work on ourselves before we start giving or helping the outside world. How quickly they forger who saved their butts, starting with Europe, Asia, etc.,.etc.,!! Lets help this country first. Feed our starving, house our homeless, and fix our system. Then, we can go else were. Thanks for sharing your story, and thanks for letting me get the truth out there!!!
Regards,
Tom
Frank (good name by the way),
Been there and done that…got the t-shirt too. Thanks for sharing your story. After 17 years in a medical profession I was terminated from a good job because of “office politics”. I found it impossible to get someone to hire me. Age and problems with physical ailments didn’t help. I had already fought my demons of drug addiction while my wife and soulmate’s alcohol use became abuse and the outright alcoholism. After 3 years of unemployment (and the associated economizing, cutting back, etc) I am now on Social Security Disability but have become totally convinced of the need to be independent, not trust anyone and be prepared for dark, hard times ahead. I just hope I can be ready in time…hopefully your materials will help in this area. Look forward to hearing more from you.
Frank C., Indiana
Hey Frank,
Try this: bitcoin, a decentralized digital currency based on an open-source, peer-to-peer internet protocol… Talking about being independent, not controlled by greedy cats and be as free as the air, I recommend you take a look at that! God Bless you!!
Mr Bates;
I have lost my illusions some time ago. As productive people we often forget about the human predators watching us. Some people have found ways to reduce their consumption of high taxed gaz by using smaller cars or alternative fuel so the government will eventually tax the milleage traveled.
Working people, including entrepreneurs, promoters etc will always pay for all he others who are not producers.
I have started my own business when I was 29. Parasites are all around us and we have to constantly guard against them or be ahead of them.
Free and daring People like you makes America this unique place in the world.
Regards
André Gaudreau Québec Canada
i’m pleased that you’ve pulled yourself up and made a go of it. You mentioned moving south so you must realize that we situated in the north (vermont) do not have the possibility of becoming as completely self-sufficient as one might in a warmer climate. Plus location, location, location will make a difference if one wants to use the wind. My location, surrounded by trees on north,west and south west makes wind power just a wish but realize it would be impracticle to expend funds for little or no gain. At one time I did live in a better area for wind and experimented with different designs for a turbine but that was over thirty years ago when I had recently retired from the Navy.
Have a good day Frank. Galen
Well, I lost my job & insurance last January (2012), collected unemployment and had to get my meds through a special deal with the pharmaceutical companies. Finally found a job in April 2012 which I then lost (again no insurance) in December of 2012. In October of 2012 I bought a house with a friend of mine and now I am trying to get myself free of this rollercoaster as well. I plan a large vegetable garden for my limited growing season (Maine) and that is why I sent for your solar info. So, you know, been there-done that-doing it again…Ugh!!!
Hi Frank,
My name is Mitch Anderson. I have been so blessed by getting connected with your organization.I have an Environmental Studies BA from UC Santa Barbara with a focus on solar energy. But I rarelly used the degree over these last 30 years.
My wife and I are Evangelical Missionaries here in South America with a group called Youth With A Mission (YWAM). We have been working with YWAM for 30 years ever since we were married. You can see some of our work at http://www.jucumpichilemu.cl or Puravidachile.com.
We spend most of our time working with the poor and are looking for ways to bless them. Your grass roots approach is right up our ally in terms of potential application. We have just been working to develop home based Aquaponics systems to help poor families feed themselves and share about God’s love for them in the process.
Aquaponics is the marriage of Aquaculture or fish farming with hydroponics. The fish produce a steady source of protien. The vegetables coming through the hydroponics feed them sufficient vegetables. So we are advancing with these systems and aim to give them away to the needy. We run two week workshops and bring people in to teach them how to build and run the systems, then we help them finance their own set up so they can become self sufficient in their families needs. This is not a money making endeavour for us as we focus mostly on those really in need.
So I was so excited to see your set up. This could be an amazing system to help families out down here in South America. I have spent many years building many things from scratch and just love to look for the most grass roots approach possible. So here is our game plan for the next few months.
I am now studying material you have sent me. Thanks for all of it. It really is a bargain. Second we aim to travel to California with our kids in June through August. I am fundraising now so we can try and purchase your larger photovoltaic and wind turbine set ups on a scale fit to help us get energy independent in Chile. Then in September upon our return we hope to set up a two week seminar on the teachings you have given us. The goal would be to teach and build the systems. We would aim to make them functional so people can learn from our efforts and teachings. Please note we do not have any real desire to make a business of this but only to help the poor. THat is not to say we shun the idea of seeing the business opportunities it can open up. Neither are we asking really for any hand outs.
You certainly are welcome to come down and give us a hand and some teaching if you could. If I knew that your or a tech of yours cold come to Chile in November for a two week seminar I could even invite more students and charge enough from them to at least pay your airfare here. It would be a blessing for us to have you with us.
God knows this could turn into a great connection as we maybe can open doors to purchasing equipement and then blessing many families through these systems.
Thanks for your time and keep up your great work.
Peace, Mitch Anderson
Director for Youth With A Mission,
Chile, South America
Well, last year I was told by my doctor that I could not recertify for a cert that my job required to keep my job….correction officer…due to a blood clot in my leg. So I have been out on disability and now SS since 9/12. I guess I was more fortunate than you were, but it left questions in my mind what would I do.
Yet, with this Obamacare crap coming down the pike, we are pretty much heading into a socialistic type govt. for sure….then communistic….
The barter system is the system of the future because the “mark” will keep us from buying or selling anything.
We need to seceed from all the minority populations (which now the white population is considered the minority today) and exist within ourselves. Then we will see who was holding this country and society together. 10-4?
Personally, I am a survivalist, but I can only do so much myself. We have to develop a society and group within ourselves. I see us coming together to survive and much as the Grimes group on The Walking Dead in the prison. Not as apocalyptic, but close.
Here’s a trick we used for the last 15 years – assume that a portion of your paycheck will be taken away tomorrow (10-15%) and learn to live on the rest. This means fewer (or no) vacations, holding on to autos a lot longer than most, cutting your own lawn, etc., but soon you realize that you can make it. The 10-15% that you don’t spend should be “socked away” by buying physical gold or other tangible assets for a rainy day.
I recently left Nigeria after working there for 6 years and that experience really brought home how much we in the “1st world” squander or waste in our daily lives. Try going to a street corner and begging for money for one day and then living on whatever you get. There a millions of people in this world that do that every day because if they don’t, they don’t eat.
Same thing happened to me but ad cancer and divorce to it.
Frank
Thanks for sharing ..I plant a veg garden in canada and bottle ,freeze & dry what I can .I make jams & pickles & wine .What Id like more is to have some solar power but I dont know if that is going to be possible maybe if I can find someone else with the same interest & work with them .
Good for you & your family .
In the Risen Lord ,
Anne
GOOD FOR YOU, ONE OF MY 4 CHILDREN IS VERY GREEN ALSO. HE HAS A DEGREE IN ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING AND LANDSCAPE ARCHITECTURE AND DESIGN AND PREVIOUSLY PARTNERED WITH HIS OLDER BROTHER FOR 15 PLUS YEARS. AS HE BECAME MORE GREEN AND TOOK ADDITIONAL COURSES WITH THE CLOUD INSTITUTE WITH A GRANT FROM THE DODGE FOUNDATION, HE MET HIS SOULMATE ANOTHER “GREENIE” AND THEY NOW HAVE THEIR OWN GARDEN AND RAISE THIER OWN VEGIES AND NOW HAVE ADDED A HENHOUSE WITH HENS AND RAISE THEIR OWN EGGS. NOT BAD FROM AN EX-CITY BO! WELL I AM NOW SHARING A CACHE OF YOUR SEEDS WITH HIM CAUSE HE WILL SURELY KNOW IT’S BEST USE. GOD BLESS! DR JON
Yeah,I came to California and found my wallet gone on a Greyhound bus-was homeless and found out Americans were not being hired for even the simplest work-not even part-time and not for any worthwhile wages.It took me a long time to get anything steady and the wages were low and the labor demanding.Now after trying to retrain in horticulture I am plagued with nagging injuries,and transferring to the Science and Technology Dept I have hit a wall with the Administration.instructors and students interested in working for TheBigBoys!Thanks,Frank,you are right to advise folks about
independent living!Right on!
Frank: I hear you loud and clear. We ourselves are having a very rough time and that is why I ordered your products. I figured if we can build the same systems you have shown to allow us to free up some money monthly in our pocket, it would be great so that we can make our lives better and those of our friends and family members. Thank you.
HI FRANK,
SO FAR I THINK YOU’RE GREAT AND I LOVE YOUR DETERMINATION AND STRONG DESIRE TO BE A MAN AND TAKE CHARGE! YOU ARE TAKING RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR FAMILY AND THEIR FUTURE. THIS IS MY FIRST EMAIL FROM YOU AND I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING SOME MORE.
THANK YOU, HEIDI
Hi again ,, im with u an hopefully you will get with me an all the others in hepling to build the simplest Plan on water for fuel,, I found tons of info on the net , but thats the problem!
TO MUCH INFO
We need to consolidate an simplify so everyone will be on sthe same page
Please frank or someone step up an help American Patriots save money an be less dependant,
On OIL.
Thanks
Kudos for you for working through., I am older now, and basically looking for ways to
spend less. I have always been self-sufficient and due to heart surgery and the amputation of half my foot, I am no longer able to work two jobs like I used to. However, this does not mean I am looking for sympathy–I went from inablity to walk, to a wheel chair to a walker, to a cane and now walk by myself, even though the doctor said I couldn’t. I am going to be 68 in a week, but am still developing other avenues to income. If your system works out it will be a bonus.
Good luck to you in the future as well. Paying it forward is an awesome way to live.
Maria E
Frank I can appreciate everything you are saying. I am not as lucky as you my wife left me December 2011 after 27 years of marriage. Did not see it coming. Love is blind right. Ok here is where I am at. Two mortgages all credit card bills all based on two incomes. Trying to move forward if not for me for my children. That being said all I can save now will benefit them later. So cutting cost is a must for me. Renovated house now renting upstairs. Treading water, blah blah. I am a country boy and I will survive. Been looking at being self sufficient for a long time. I also grow garden. Hunt and store meat for winter. Bills are always going to be there. All I can do is cut as many costs as possible. Do not have anybody to rely on. been on my own since high school. Sometimes God sends us on a scary path. But trust in God and all will work out. I am sorry that you had to experience that but am happy to hear you dealt with it and kept your family together. Your signifant other is the most important thing in life aside of god, so hang on to that no matter what. To try and make a long story short I will try to use your info to do good not only for myself but for others. Trust me I have plenty that come to me. Not that is a bad thing, it just gets trying at times. Anyway thank you for your correspondence, and I wish you and yours the best. Again thank you for caring. I am available to talk most evenings if you would like to correspond more. Have a great evening hopefully I will hear from you soon.
been there done that. only i had no husband. he went home to mother. there i be with 2 kids. alone. no family to help. i became a housekeeper and screw uncle sam and his taxes. i needed the money for MY children not some fat cat on a golf course or flying to god knows where for a vacation at my expense!.
as for doing without the nice things i learned…..use it up, wear it out, make it do, or do without. sorry not my words. a great statesman. benjamin franklin, poor richards almanac, book 2! works for me.
i gardened and canned like i was a pilgrim. learned to smoke meat and can it too. learned to make bread. quilt and crochet blankets. and garage sales for clothes. be amazed what soap and water and a needle and thread can do to make old look like new. and a few pennies for a toy or two.
our grandparents went to the grave without teaching us how to survive. i am lucky i found those that knew and learned from them. i hope you teach your children how to survive. i taught mine how to and they live this way today.
i wish i was able to build the solar panels and other things you wrote of. but alas, 69 years old and arthritic with no man to help. so i rely on GOD to see that i have what i need. he knows my needs before do. and as long as there are people like you who want to help others by doing GOD’s biding then humans will survive the great war that is coming.
Mr Bates, i have no doubt that God is using you to help others. no greater gift then for one man or woman to go out of thier way to help another and expect nothing from it. you are blessed.
go with god. i pray i get to meet you in the rapture. or in paradise on earth. for sure you will be needed when we all return to clean up the mess on this planet we humans made. god gave us the sun to warm our bodies, and grow our food. he did not create oil wells in texas! but HE saw to it that you were enligtened how to use what he gave to us. for that i am grateful.
God bless you and those you love.
Hello Frank; thank you for sharing your story and can imagine what most people go through with the utility companies. I purchased the items for my son as he has been unemployed and trying to find a new job. This will eventually help him by putting the project together and will probably enjoy it, too. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and products with us. God bless!
I can relate to your past situation. I too have been through some tough times. Barley keeping head above water. I too looking someway to become a self sufficient survivor.
I too was pushed out back on 31st of Aug 2012. Large big box home improvement store. I was a manager with >10years of blood sweat and tears. A true company man. Now I’m “over qualified for the open” and etc. Another way of saying 57 years old is TOO OLD> I have always believed if you worked hard you would be successful, however America has changed. I served my country in the US navy for 23 years holding to GOD and Country. God hasn’t let me down but my country is another story. I have been working on solar, water and space heating for our home. I have installed the PEX piping for radiant floor heating and pre heating for potable heat water. I too live in the south “Ga” and have good sunny days. I have planned a solar tower to house the solar collector and a wind turbine. This will give me 2 extra hours of sun strike on system. I hope to reduce heated water by grid power by 85-90% with the storage of hot water for round the clock operation.
I look forward to building my system using your information.
Will Fendley.
Hi Frank,t
Thanks for sharing your story! It is interesting to note that you have overcome many difficult times and one comment you made “The Lord knows it hasn’t been easy…My good wife of 53 years has also been a very stabilizing influence in my life but I truly thank God for all He has done and continues to do for each of us…I do believe He gives us good guidance through men such as you to further help us through trying times. And I do thank you for what you have given us to make life worthwhile and more affordable. I haven’t started using your materials yet but I do get the message that you care. And caring makes all the difference when it comes to sharing what we can with folks who need sharing, whether it be God’s glorious salvation plan or a plan to use His resources in a better way. God bless you!
I’m with you Frank. North America (which I consider USA & Canada), as a Nation, has become a Godless man-fearing Nation which is almost 100% driven my lust & greed. Thus, we have become a Nation of people who will be corrected only by a total economic collapse. Only the ones preparing for it by becoming less reliant on the greedy Fat Cats (from corporate monster employers to Government officials, to corrupt religious sects), will survive the hard times which appear to be just ahead. I believe that hyper-inflation is on the rise already, which is always the precurser of a total collapse. This is something which I’m not looking forward to, but I believe that it’s inevitable that it will happen on short order. Mankind has always been this way, and our generation is no exception. If we look back through history we can learn a lot from it. The Israelite’s 40 year journey from Egypt to Canaan is a very powerful testimony for us to learn lessons from. Without fail, WHENEVER things went well for the Israelites, they forsook the God of their fathers and flirted with pagan gods. Also, without fail, whenever God would bring them totally down onto their knees, would they remember Him again and things would shape up again for them for a season; until things went well for a time and they would repeat the same thing over again. I believe that our generation is due for a TOTAL shakedown which will shake us to the core. This is prophesied and promised to happen for disobedience to God (Levuticus chapter 26 & Deuteronomy chapter 28). Only after He will come down on us with both feet, will our Nation realize how we have forsook Him. And again, ONLY after such a shakedown will the love between the people come back into alignment with God’s Will. That’s because without caring for each other after a such collapse, we both won’t survive. If we repent for disobeying Him and for following the wicked ways of our ancestors, He will heal us and our land (Leviticus 26:40-42; 2 Chronicles 7:14). And in the end, every one will be blessed or cursed according to his/her own deeds, not according to anyone else (Ezekiel chapter 18). FOOD FOR THOUGHT. God Bless!!
Since 2000 I have been down sized 4 times. The last time June 2011. That is tough enough, but at 51 it is even harder, and dealing with my wife’s cancer too. Well, we are moving forward. This summer/fall, we will be purchasing a home on land, and I have started my own home business. I am still in corporate america, but I am positioning myself so that I do not have to depend on it to survive.
Hi Frank
I purchased your package for my grandson. He too has a personal problem similar to yours. He is very talented and can put the information to good use. This will be an ideal gift that he will remember. This could start him on a new career path. As for myself I have been retired nearing three decades, and enjoy helping others with their needs.
May God bless you for sharing your story. I was laid off one month ago and my dear wife of 46
years is a part time Walmart cashier trying to support us along with my unemployment check.
Due to previous circumstances we have been living in an extended stay hotel for the past three
years, and was about ready to get back into a house when I was laid off. these places require a
payment every week or you are on the street immediately! It didn’t take long to go through what
little cash we had before the unemployment kicked in.I can’t wait to get out of here and be
productive again! I know the need to be independant, God bless all who are hurting.
Dear Frank,
Thanks for sharing your story. As a Human Resource Director, I am often amazed at the callousness of the profession. Thankfully, I work for a “just cause” employer and we don’t ever let people go on a whim or without good reason. I don’t know how successful I will be with the information you’ve provided but I’m very interested in being “free” from the power company.
God is Good and He helps those who work to help themselves. Peace and Blessings to you and thanks again!
I myself was “let go” and i purchased this 7 days later. It will be difficult to do all this at the same time i am job searching but at least i will have the info in my hands.
I’m with you. I.m heading for the mountains.
Hi frank, I guess you have an idea of some of the things we have been thru and I appreciate you sharing, VERY much! I hope that it means the program will still be available at the end of the month for $27.00 I WILL be purchasing it then and if all goes well then I hope to be on our own property, if I can find it, and get set up so we do NOT ever have to rely on the govt. and business ewver again!! Tahnks agqain Frank! I look forward to hearing how things eventually turn out for you and your family!! Sincerly R. Wilde
Thanks for sharing that story. I have been there also and look forward to all your materials on setting up my own energy.
Frank,
You stepped up to the plate my friend! You saved your family and your children will be the better for it.
I’ve ordered the DVDS and looking forward to them. Had I known FIRST that I could get the information in book format, I would have gotten the book instead. Maybe consider a way to do this when customers are ordering.
I’ve been working with the WA GOP on a site giving Patriots two things: 1. A one stop shop for all conservative sites, help sites, organisations, etc. 2. Ways patriots can help our country…example,,, writing, calling all advertisers that pay for ads on MSNBC. Let them know unless they pull their ad’s, we don’t purchase their products.
After I’ve tried your DVDS, I may want to link your site. Let me know what you think.
Regards and blessings,
Tracy Hall
As a fellow minimalist I am glad to know that I am not alone.
PS: I read comments after I posted mine and it looks like there are many like minded folks here with various experiences and a good place to find folks to share ideas with. Sound out things and just keep each other’s morale up while we all go through whatever comes together. We are made of good stuff, patriots of America, so we can stand up and be counted right? Peace and blessings to all as we figure out what to do…….
Hello Frank……….believe me I know what you are talking about. Been there several times unfortunately. Being a single Mother for all but one year of my daughter’s life so far has always been hard. I changed jobs every chance I got for better pay, not necessarily a better job! Lay offs, business closures, even with college & other training I have lived close to the pocket always. Only briefly over the last 30 years was $ good-then the last snag for all Americans hit. So now with all hopes of a different life gone-here I am having to think about living just as tight as ever-if not more so as a semi retired/self employed person. But like you,at least I determine my days. I am trying to take control better by preparing for lean days that I feel truly are ahead for most Americans. There have been grave mistakes made and our governance is compromised to the point of almost no return it seems so….it is up to each of us to do what we can ourselves. I believe there are those that are trustworthy and of like mind to help each other out and share ideas-which will make what is coming bearable—-I hope!
Frank, I hear ya. You are rght. We need to simplify, network, and develop self-suffiency skills.
Hi Frank,
Actually our son Nate, who lives in Colorado Springs and we are planning to go energy free this year. Nate has an exact duplicate testimony of being fired because the economy went south and then had to start his own business. That was 5 years ago and he is making it. He plans to move out of his rental and into the country to live off the land and supply his own energy. We are planning to do the same here in Florida. So thanks for being honest, because many of us are facing the same issues and depending more on God than ever to get us through. He has not let us down and never will. Your tools will be a great encouragement as we move forward defending our families.
God bless you,
Winfield
You and your wife made a great team. I am very happy all the plans you made has turned out well. I never found myself in your situation but quite understand about the fat cats who do nothing but get to ride others. I quit my job at 55 and put part of my savings into an annuity. My wife is an RN and continued to work. Ever since 2000 Income went down with the Stock market Crashes in the the decade after. We live in a Country where the Rich get Richer and the midleclass gets smaller and smaller. We are now in our Twilight years and worry no more, Que Sera Sera.
Everyone needs to stop relying on the gov’t for food, energy and healthcare. We also need to stop using their illegal currency (Federal Reserve Notes). Those greenbacks are unconstitutional as they are not backed by gold or silver. There is no oversight on the Federal Reserve https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THlaMUq6MKU They claim they do not even have ANY gold. If any country tries to create a gold standard the US will bomb them into oblivion and hang or otherwise assassinate their leader. When everyone wakes up and realizes our money is worthless and the gov’t controls us through taxes and inflation there will be chaos. Let’s see how Cyprus plays out in the next couple of weeks. The gov’t is also poisoning the processed food you buy. Check out infowars.com– In the Information Age ignorance is a choice. Buy fresh, buy local. Grow your own. Tell more people.
Thanks for being honest. I hope god looks down on you and yor family.
Aloha Frank,
Thanks for sharing your story. Mark and I are both in our 60’s, he is 67 yrs. old and is working, he is the sole proprioter of our family small construction business and he is the working contractor (the buck stops with him) along with our son as an employee and one more employee. I am still waiting on the kit for Mark because I ordered it without his knowledge of this. He is very busy and I am hoping that I could share it with our other 2 sons living in St. Louis and California who own their homes.
I am a stay at home mom that helps in the family business keeping his books, taxes, etc. and I am also the Founder & Mark is the Co-Founder of a grassroots 501(c)3 nonprofit serving single parents since 2000 on the island of Kauai. We have helped over 500 families since then with monthly food distribution as well as other expenses of transportation, gas, utilities, rent, etc. Zero funds come from our goverment (State, County or Federal) we are bless to have it come in by the generosity of individuals in our community and abroad who knows about our organization
“Hui O Na Makua Ho`okahi O Kauai (Single parents of Kauai). I came from a single parent home with 8 children and our dad died (41 yrs.)when I was only 12 yrs. old and that is where we learned how to survive by living off the land, fishing & gardening and sewing.
The emails that you have sent out to Mark via my email address he has not seen them because I was the one that ordered it for him. This is why you haven’t received a reply back. I am waiting for the kit to arrive and see what Mark says. I am looking forward to getting this for us as we see the cost of goods rising.
Mahalo Marilyn
Frank ,Thank You for reminding Me that I`m not unique.
Six month ago we purchased a nice little house in CT. buisness was good last year and then it seemed the bottom fell out.I`ve been self employed most of my life ,owning and opperating a small remodeling company for the last 9 years ,this past year has been hell.I am looking foward to starting construction of the new freedom from THE MAN…
Be Well and God Bless.
Can relate with your past experience. We live on a fixed income now. Keeps getting smaller as time goes by.
Thank you for sharing your story Frank, I’ve been out of work half of 2012, and had been starting my new design/build company. I’m going back to school nights, and learning more about green building and sustainable housing. This is another step in the process of changing the tide on fossil fuel dependence! Thanks, Dave
Hello Frank
I have been through a similar situation,and was laid off mar 8 2012 in Dec of 2011 I had a blood vessel break in my brain housing group and have not been able to obtain work after my layoff so I’m hoping the power for pat’s will help.I am a former Marine and will never give up
Semper Fi
Bill
Hey Frank I know how you feel. Ive been there. I ordered the material for my son. He lives on 40 acres and should try these things for independence. I am 77 yrs old and will give the materials to my son after I read them. Good luck with your business. Regards Greg
Our family went through the very same thing. We have always tried to be as self reliant as we could be and have not asked for handouts from anyone. We came out of it as well as we could. We are now facing a different set of problems . We are retired and have had to use up our total savings helping family members that needed it. We still keep going and with God’s help will manage with what we have and be fine.
I want to thank you for the inspirational letter, it makes me feel that someone cares about whats happening in the world we live in, and that there is hope. Now is up to me to find the way to become more self-reliant.once again thank you!
Ignacio
keep going if it all hits the fan you will be ready
frank bates . your story sounds a lot like mine,i was in electronics we repaired vcr and camers and camcorders. the bank told me to go get the people that i would do work for ,i took about 30 thousands dolars worth of contracts,the bank made me so mad after all the time ispent getting this to gether.. well i bored 5,000.00 from my brother and i found a electronics co that let me buy my equipment i needed,i put 2500.00 down.and over the 25years that i was in buss.i always bought my test equepment him,,because they helped me whin i neededit and i never for got that.my wife and i sleep on the couch at night,in outher words we sleep in the shop,we could not aford anything..it took 5 years before i got to make any money,the LORD realy bleased us for 25 years.i am now81 years old ,and in pery good shape.i thank you for what you wrote,..
Thank You so much,
Mr. Bates,
For sharing your story with me. I Cried, and well, just ran through all kinds of emotions, to see you come from where you were to where you are…Have you thought of Publishing your story? What I have read of your determination to make your family less dependent on FAT CATS has been very inspiring to me. Thank you for all the hard work that you have done..in bringing this info. to my family and the millions of others that you have help.
Homeschooling my daughter for 7 years, I understand those kinds of demands that were on your wife. She is really to be commended for Her accomplishments as well as the Children’s Achievements in Education.
Thanks again for you sharing your story…
Sincerely,
Rena Howard
i know how tough it is a little illegell mexican ran over me n they took my right legn ive been screwed ever since i just want you to deliver on your promise nothing more
This sounds very close to what happened to me. I was 55 years old and had been with the same company 35 years. I have been blessed to have worked hard and am debt free. I hope with your info and help I can build a system to get me off the grid. I am 62 now and hope I will be smart and healthy enough to do it.
I hear you, just went through it myself in aug and still struggling
Frank, I ordered your information and am looking forward to receiving it….I hope it’s as simple as you clain. I am a 56 yr old divorcee and am taking control of my life in many ways. I have chickens, goats and a pony at this point. Looking to raise my own beef eventually. I do what I can but I think with what is already being put in place against us it may already be too late. True patriots will survive and I feel sorry for the idiots sitting back and taking the handouts they are not going to know what hit them when it all comes crashing down. Perservere!
Frank,
I’m disabled with bad back. We are low encome, try to grow a little garden, and live a simple life.
Looking forward to your kit. It will be something I’ll have to take my time with. But help of my
Brother I know we can do this. Enjoyed your story, I’ve been their. Thanks Frank.
Your friend, Rodney
Frank,
I have been disabled due to diabetes and know what its like to have to try and make it on peanuts. My wife and I are trying to get out of debt, which seems to be a never ending battle. Our taxes, utilities, and the like have skyrocketed but not our income. We are hoping this will help us get on the other side.
Thanks for sharing your story!
Hey Frank,
I’ve been aware of the need to assert our independance since the mid- eighties. I even moved up to Northern B.C. (Canada) to homestead. I was a year too late, the government changed the policies and I never did get my land. I’m a proffessional horticulturist and I can grow anything. With our changing climate I am aware that greenhouse technology is important to research and make affordable for everyone. That why I’m so exciting about the prospect of being off the grid. I live in the pacific North West (Vancouver Island) and with the system that you are making available to people, I can see growing perpetual food crops (which big food producers are all ready doing. But this is like taking the big monterous computers and developing PCs that everyone can use and afford.)
I am recovering from some recent serious upheavals and losses in my life. But my mother has graciously opened up her home to me. I’ve talk to her about my plans to go off the grid and to prepare food stocks. She’s eighty three years old and hasn’t been able to care for her home the way my dad used to.She’s relieved that I have the ability to take of the house and a plan to make it more efficient.
Thank you kindly for sharing your story and your knowledge. (Knowledge is empowerment)
Helga
If God be for us ,then who can be against us?www.barnstormers.com/cat.php?mode=listing&main=
Hi Frank
Thanks for sharing your story. As I read the other comments to you, it appears that lots of folks have had their share of difficulties, and, like you, have been able to overcome. I just purchased your package and haven’t received it yet. I’ve looked at a couple of your email info that you sent.
I’m hoping that I’ll be able to figure out how to do this when my package with the details arrive.
I don’t know if this will show my website, but it is about a way to get your cell phone service for free.
I’m looking forward to seeing the rest of your package of information, and seeing if I can do this myself!
Blessings!
David Sturm
This country is in trouble and we all need to start (if you haven’t already) preparing for the worst because it is coming. I may not be the brightest crayon in the box but what I read and hear is scary. I was retired from Law Enforcement in 2005 and divorced in 2009 and I am learning how to Live on a small budget. I started buying Antiques and collectibles and selling them at a very good profit. I now have clients and work at my own pace from home. I can make a little or a lot. My call. I have two acres in Georgia and I am going to start a garden. I have already grown tomatoes and put them up and I am looking forward to canning alot more home grown food. I loved your story. It is inspiring and I am looking forward to starting your project. Take care and God Bless you and your family.
Frank, thanks for your story, but when I read a heart felt story like that, that “pulls” a nieve person in I see a scam.My wife and I work for Caterpillar in Lafayette Indiana.Our company takes pride in boasting that we power the world.So please don’t try and B.S. me.I currently have the head of our electical engineers reshearching the packet tbat you sent me.I truley hope that this is all on the “up & up” & I can do this.
Best Regards,
Jeff Fellows
Frank: I also had a sudden stop to my income Aug. 2010. We have had a garden for years for favorite fresh vegetables. We are great do-it-yourself for many needy projects, and live extremely conservatively. I am just now in a position to again generate some income as my own boss. I have a credit card debt to clear, that is why I could only purchase your least expensive, most basic offer. I expect to become financially solvent again in the next 24 months. Then it will be time to replace my vehicle, which is my major expense. Thank you for sharing your story. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and know-how for solar and wind power. When your package arrives, my husband will study it and put it to use. We live on a hill where the wind blows 363 days a year. ;-) Fran
Frank,
Your story unfortunately, is being experienced by more and more people in the recent past, and will be I,am sorry to say happening to a lot more people in the future.
A lot of people (the uninformed and misinformed) have been lead away from SELF RELIANCE passed down from our forefathers, to being “on the take” directly or indirectly through give away programs by many forms of local, state, and federal government.
You and your family turned a bad situation into an OPPORTUNITY. That way of thinking is the theme in your and most of the comments I’ve read.
Your program helping people become more self reliant and by PASSING IT
FORWARD is a true example of “THE AMERICA WAY”.
You are a great American and a “true patriot”.
THX.
L. Browne
I’ll be honest and say that it is a very scary prospect to be reliant on just myself. I am a caretaker for my husband who was a man’s man and took care of anything that was thrown at us. Now he is not able to do any of the things and all the decisions have fallen on me. It is difficult because I do not have much ideas on the way things work and yes I believe I am a little lazy and like to be looked after as in the past.
I must say that it took me a few months to decide on a contractor to fix my home after a broken pipe burst while I had taken our first vacation and came home to have to move out so that the insurance could tear down all the walls and dry out the house. And thanks to a dear sister in the Lord who took charge and got me a contractor and also got the insurance to cover more of the cost of replacement that I finally moved back into my home after 6 months. I had a solar system installed in the house but it was so costly and my bills are still a little too high for my satisfaction,.
I ordered a solar backup but it is still in the box.
Evelyn
Hi Frank
I’m carry and live I. The mid South No to be exact and a I work in construction and a single parent its hard finding good work close to home and be able to care of my daughter and home so when I seen the ad on line I thought can help me to be more independent and secure when I travel to go find work and no worry about coming home to a dark house and have to payo ridiculous high reconnect fees to get my power on its crazy restock the fridge and food has become so expensive now you need a second Joe just so u can afford to eat. Anyway I’m glad there someone who can help answer my question on how I can be more independent and and secure and to break away from the b
nd the utility companies and build a better future for my daughter. I hope to pass this down to her and her kids so life can life can secure her family if and when she decides to have one. I eagerly await my order to come so I can get started thank you again.
Frank:
i have been more fortunate than you but did lose a few jobs because of polictics in the organization. Although my family was setback a few times, I moved across the country to better positions and situations. I was a real visionary leader and problem solver and when you make decisions that are “right” for your clients, many people within and outside the organization will bite you hard. I got through that life and am proud of the achievements overall.
Because I moved around, I have little retirement benefits to draw upon in retirement. So, my major concern now is will I outlive the benefits and what will I do if I do? I have already outlived my parents and my wife (died of cancer) and I appear to be stronger than a few years ago.
This adventure is one that intriques me. How long will it last?
Thanks for sharing your story and congratulations for being a visionary person,
All for now!
Len Burns
Dear frank glad to run on your messages on internet I order all your things looking to get them it going to get worse to present time so thanks sharing thing with me hope it helps me i”m retired and trying to stay ahead the president and govemment really hurting us bad better start thinking ahead for sure goverment hurt us sincerelr charlie k
Hey thanks for sharing your story. I’m in a state of change and simplification right now myself (and my family). Its’ not always easy trying to lead my family to where we would like to be without any good idea of how we’re going to get there but I definitely know that it was never meant to be the governments responsibility to take care of us…it’s ours. I’m from Canada and I’m beginning to understand the meaning of community. It’s our job to look out for each other. I appreciate what you and your company are doing for your community. It just got a little bit bigger.
God bless!
Thx Frank. I been wanting to be independent for years now. Your not the only one I looked into but love all of you out there who I searched and learned from. It’s a little different up here in Alberta Canada as we do not get the amount of sun you folks do. So wind power, solar power and a little generator power will get me off the grid. We too have plans on selling the house and moving to a cheaper area of the country. I have over 30 yrs in the computer industry and my lovely wife has over 20 in retail so work should not be a problem even if its just minimum wage for we are almost debt free. Know we are avid campers and know how to live on very little and believe me very little. So again thx for all your info an cannot wait for my info. Take care
Hi, Frank:
You sound llike me in 1982. Unfortunately, my son died then and everything went by the wayside at that time…
I had to file “bankruptcy” and basically start all over again…It IS an awful feeling! I am currently doing a little “distribution” business since 1988. It isn’t very much because I have gone from 14 publications; to just a couple. I have to admit that I have started to feel much better being my own boss and not having to put up with the “Fat Cat” telling me what to do ALL of the time!
Hope this finds you in great health and spiritis! GOD BLESS…
Warm regards,
DAN
I was “let go” after many years at my job.
I’m caring for my father and things are really tight.
I was very excited by this blog.
We’ve taken every thing down to the minimum.
I know that things will be alright, that God will find a way.
Take care and keep going…
Have been there, I reired in 1990, went into contract designer as a Aerospace electrical wire harness design engineer, ben all over this country, worked on meny different aircraft company, then my health went to hell, now am thinking to move to Texas, aquire a piece of land, move into my motorhome, put together a power system, start a food garden, the go back to work, doing what I did prior to retirement…..
Thanks for your sharing your experience with me. I have been in tight spots to and at this time in my life it could happen again. I am retired and both my checks come from the government, With this president and his non ledership I am fearful. Sincerely Lilly
Frank,
Thank you for sharing your story with me. I really appreciate it. I am also self employed and have been for some 20 years. My wife, Joan, and I have also had to make some tough choices in our lives and are always looking to save our meager funds as much as we can.
Thanks again,
Warren
Frank, thank you so much for being so frank with me. I do appreciate it and you. I worked as a loan officer in a major bank for 30 years, retired in 1998 with a small investment but I thought I could make it in retirement. Shortly after retirement,my Mom came to live with me and I was responsible for her care until she died in August 2011.Since then, I have had two other surgeries but they got all the cancer and prevented a problem with the other surgery. This has taken a major toll on me and my investment. Now I live on social security only and bills are still piling up. I wanted to purchase a home and get some renters to supplement my income but that hasn’t happened yet or it might not happen at all. I am a widow since my husband died in 1994.I think your Power4Patriots is a good program but I can’t use in an apartment.
Forget the chickens unless you have a way to raise the food for them. Chicken feed is high. I glean the corn fields in my area for fallen corn. Usually get enough for a pig and a few hens. Chicks raised with a hen are slower growing but have a good flavor.
Thanks for your e-mail, I look forward to reviewing and using your information. I already have modified my 1983 Mercedes 300 SD to run on vegi oil and have a hydrogen generator that helps me get better gas miliage. Im a tinkerer and plan on building a diesel generator out of a VW rabbit deisel engine for immediate power needs, I want to do the same as I do with my car, to run on oil and and eventually encorperate the solar panals into the long term goal. I have my own spring and plan on building my own water system. I am thankful there is other like minded self reliant people out there I can get ideas from. I look forward to learning more and applying what I learn to “Get off the grid” I definately dont trust the government to take care of me or my family.
PS I live in pleasant view and work downtown Nashville, As a veteran’s service officer. Feel free to contact me.
Sincerely,
Joe
Assistant Supervisor
Disabled American Veterans
Nashville TN
Frank I know where you are coming from, I worked for 28 years for a reputable mining company In Idaho.Came to work one day and was told they were closing the doors. I have been a member of a labor union all my life which made the company a least give us a 60 day notice bofore they pulled the plug. To this day I am still fighting for the jobs of my fellow brothers and sisters. I think your site is excellent. Thank you Randy 216
Hello Frank. I’ve been down the road you shared, twice! Second time my 3rd heart attack forced me to shut down my two business’s. I began doing more research than ever on the internet looking at various options. Our home is all electric, power outages are real bad news for my health, literally. I was a member of an online chat group concerning Tesla Turbine’s and pumps.
It is common knowledge the design has low torque, yet it can crank a 50 kW generator with a 10 inch tubine. One day the proverbial light bulb came on and I was able to design it to produce tremendous torque and horsepower. I was on a roll. Designed a hydrostatic drive I’m told is simular, but my design modified a classified design two ways, commonly used to pump fly ash out from under boilers at power plants, 40 ft to a truck outside through a 21 stage vacumn system, 14 inch dia. The 6″ turbine was driven with steam That provoked me to design the hydrostatic drive. The frictional heat the casing reaches 300 degree’s. So I considered boiling a refrigerant with that heat to drive a secondary turbine. This was becoming an electric supercar that would put production models to shame. Due to extreme range, and your main demand was to warm the drive system up. Next, I decided to utilize ram air, to drive two alternator’s with a Pelton turbine. I also decided to use a magnetic clutch, so I would’nt need to change pressure plate. The magnetic plate would be connected to the drive shaft, which would allow me to use the backside as a full time regenerative generator. Then I learn about the Hendershot generator and motor used to help the Spirit of St. Louis cross the Atlantic. The plane did NOT have enough fuel to fly over 3 days crossing the ocean. The design made headline news, with military interest also. This is right up my alley for a primary drive system for the hydrostatic drive. When all was said and done, I was looking at another alternative way to run our home power demands with part of the system. We rent our property, so the landlord may frown on solar panel’s and my vertical wind generator design. I would have to keep it portable. But WE in Missouri face union goon’s being sent to destroy panels, even shoot ou a chunk of your rotor blade when the brake get’s set because the power company screws you, and will also refuse to pay for unused power. State law demands we connect to the grid. Unless I find a property where I can build my dream Earth contact home, far from the grid, so I am not forced to connect.
My wife and I are disabled, just barely getting by. I collect parts from scrap sources, even that has taken me years, and nothing can be finished. It remains a distant dream, I refuse to give up hope of seeing become a reality. The Earth contact home is completely built with concrete, so it can survive a direct hit from a tornado. Basically using the same method of concrete monolithic dome homes. I don’t want a dome, I want a contemporary ranch style home.
It is inspiring to see Power4Home technology. I have a friend in Africa Brian helped get started with Solar. Now, most of their village is Solar powered.
In my research, I found and copied a patent that allows you to cut your panel demand in half. You charge one bank of batteries, while running off the other set, switching as needed.
Trust me, I know how dirty the power omanies can be. They burnt my parents home to the ground as three witnesses told police two men from the power company climb the pole and unhooked our service line, then made contact with the high voltage lines going directly into the house. Arcs came from the power meter to the ground. I had just started my research into supressed or forgotten technologies. No arrests were ever made.
I know your work is helping a lot of people. I would like to build some 100 watt panels. The rest is questionable if I can afford to finish.
I supported your program., and say God Bless your work.
Gary
Dear Frank,
Thank You for sharing Your story. I want You to know how much I appreciate the path You have embarked upon to help us (those of us who have made the decision to really help ourselves so we can, in turn, be a help to others) to become self-sufficient and self-sustaining. I am anticipating receiving Your starter kit. Thank You for the videos. You are the Best!!! Frederick Alderfer
I can identify, I had that same thing happen to me in 2001, and the way things are going at work, it may happen again. I know the Governor is going after our retirement, so even if I don’t get pushed out, my retirement is going to look a lot different then, what I was promised when I stated working for the D.O.C. back in 2004. I work at a maximum security prison, I am 56(57 on March 2nd), I am a multi-service veteran(Marine Corps, Navy & Army). I had a rough childhood, and as an adult, I’ve been through 4 combat zones and have seen alot of friends pay the ultimate price. So adversity and I are old friends, but that doesn’t mean I like it, or don’t want to take steps to make it more liveable. Thanks for sharing your story, it helps to know that I am not alone.
Wayne P. Myers
As I was typing my answers last night,my thoughts were exactly some of the things you just mention but I did not wanted to sound like a person who does not like to work and keep everything in my mind we need to be more self- reliant not depending on any one for anything and if we need to accomplish these goal we need to put our heads and ideas for a common good.
note: excuse my spelling mistakes from last conversation I am learning.
Hi Frank, I think your story is being echoed across our great country. I was self employed for many years before I made the difficult decision that my company could no longer support my family, and had to give up. I fortunately had an oportunity to go to work for a large company in the oil industry, but i know the day could come when the boss calls me in with the hatchet man. My wife runs a nonproffit company dependant on programs that are increasingly being cut by the government.We have decided try to cut unnessary things from our budget, like high energy. I have allways been interested in solar energy, so we are jumping in. Thanks to you and those before us for helping make the process easier. If we all work and pray together we can Restore America. .
Thanks for sharing…my story exactly..only I am a medical practitioner, successful practice in a Corporate sytem, suddenly contract is terminated, got some severence however they violated that part of the contract holding back on funds that should have been dispersed. it’s a real shame when primary care PCPs have to leave the country to practice medicine..so here I am in Saipan helping a population that really deserves and needs and is very appreciative of our presence here! The land of the most expensive electricity in the world. Cudos to your help in this venue..awaiting the arrival of my manuals to start living in freedom from that huge expense and to protect oursleves when the “cyclone” hits.
Hi Frank
I am in the same spot I lost my job I was a general Contractor in Florida and things came to a end. The goverment was a big cause but whatever I had no work no job and that feeling is unreal. I started a new company Black Widow Ammo & Guns. I was on top for the past 3 years and starting to get back my life. Sorry to say it is going back to the same thing owning a company is not easy and this is my third try. Obama is banding guns and stopped all imports of ammo and some guns. Now my buisness is going down hill fast. I load the ammo for the police department here and we can’t get projectiles to make the ammo so now because of big brother I am going to lose my buisness and job. I have tryed so hard to be a good man and work hard pay taxes and thought like you have but guess what my friend the goverment will take your new buisness away either through tax’s or making you get insurance to take care of the non working people. Obama and his clan wants all of us workers to support the non working people in this country and they want to own everything. I love the USA and the peple in this country but the goverment has destroyed America and I am loosing faith in everything I was taught as human. I want to believe the money I have invested in this buisness was going to save me and my family I spent our retirement and savings over $250,000.00 and $33,000.00 more on bringing the store up to today date code’s here in Florida. I took the FFL test passed and paid the money for the Lic and now it seems I have lost everything. I have ordered your full program and hope I can find the funds to start getting my life back on track one more time. Saving money on electric seem to be a good start and reading how others are hurting is helping with my stress. I am so happy for you and your family and hope your company grows and makes it through the hard times we are all having.
America was great but now I am not so sure when they took God out of schools and other things that have made America great it look grim for all of us. I pray that God comes back into the everyday life of Americans and we start helping our brothers like it was in the OLD days. Farmers helped other farmers out and builders did the same. O well thanks again for putting back some hope in my life and God bless you and all the good people that have posted replys
Frank:
How well I know where you have been. Been there, don that for us also. I am waiting on my material and am talking to my son and grandson about your program. they are listening.
Margaret
Hi Frank, Thank you for sharing your story and the advice, it is excellent advise. With the way things are heading with the government, I plan on following it.
Keep things locked and loaded, a garden planted and stay in the “orange” zone (aware).
It’s just my opinion, but real Freedom has a lot to do with (among other things)
being in control of your dependencies; keeping the ones you like and want, and letting go of the those that keep all of us on a metaphoric leash. Am old enough to know I can’t do it all by myself and need the help of folks like you. Thanks very much for your Power4Patriots programs.
Chris
Hi Frank, We are learning to scale back as well. My oldest son served 10 years in Army. He has
custody of his/our daughter/granddaughter. My husband believes things will work out, and it just might. I do not want to sit back and wait to see how this Country is going to destroy itself. We can’t retire. when the stock market crashed we lost our 401Ks before we could get them into an IRA. I can hardly wait til winter is over and start your program to becoming self reliant and not depending on corporate companies. I can hardly wait til the package gets here so I can start things rolling this spring. Thank you very much. Dawn Verner
Hi Frank, your life event gave me flashbacks of what I went through. My wife and I lived in Vegas and when the economy went south so did our six figure incomes. Now we live our life for us not cooperate America. We too grow and raise our own foods.
Thanks for enlightening me to the information.
James L.
You did a good job. Very interesting.
Frank,
My wife and I are from the ‘old school’, now retired and worried about the future. I am sure that is nothing new, but our funds are going down faster than we expected. Partly by increasing energy cost and for the well being of big oil companies. As we try to pull back, our next worry is our health costs. We are being hit with increasing health insurance cost that wipes out more than any gain in income and savings. At 77 years of age I am not sure I can manage and build a system of power4patriots and try to cut more cost. I plan to study the detail, get some advice and see what happens. All of this may not happen as I am faced with a wife that is losing her memory and capability to do things more and more every month. It is H— getting old! I take heart in your drive to get back in the game and I hope that I may find some of the same drive. Good luck to you.
Hi Frank, I can certainly relate to the struggles you and your family endured. We are retired and was shocked at how much we had to scale back the direction our ss was being distributed. We have had a substantial garden for many years…one we would never let go. My wife, Eva works diliogently canning and preserving. She actually leardned how to can chicken!!
I am so proud of her efforts since she has Parkinsons Disease and early onset dementia. After the diagnosis she came home, sat down at the computer and googled and found a website called lumosity. It really tests the brain so as to slow the dementia. She joined the Michael J Fox Foundation and expanded her knowledge on Parkinsons. Since I have ordered your power4patriots, she wants to be a part of the installation(really I think she wants to supervise,SSSHHH) Don’t tell her I said that.
God bless you and your family for taking hold of a very bad situation and struggled, held on, and prayed…I know that is how you have gotten as far as you have.
We believe in one day at a time. We give thanks when the next day comes that we may continue to plan our lives.
By the way we haven’t received our materials as of yet. I was wondering the mail time it will take.
I’m excited to begin reading and studying about what you have shared with us.
Bless you and your family,
Jerry and Eva
Thanks for sharing. Similar situation. But did have support from my partner. Doing well at this point.
Well I will just watch for now but I think this is a valid path. Thank you Mr Bates, for the truth it seems, and sorry for the dis-trust, sign of these times.
Immanuel
A familiar story, fortunately I’ve not had to share it w/many other Americans. However, my wife and I are both retired and our income is greatly reduced. We live in Alaska and have been thinking of making the jump to “off grid” living. We are both quite healthy, fit, and eat very little meat, etc. though we stock up every summer on salmon, and are still able to hunt wild game. This of course requires a freezer, a “must” in Alaska. After speaking w/a lot of people about off-grid in Alaska most say it is not possible, that the long winter months requiring the most energy cannot be sustained by solar and wind power alone. Most say/believe an auxilary generator is required during the darkest & coldest months of Dec, Jan, & Feb. So I am at a quandary over what to do. I’ve checked into geothermal but it is prohibitively expensive but I have not ruled it out. We already have a very energy efficient home and I’ve been gradually “greening” it so as to use less electricity, and have installed an outdoor wood boiler to heat it. The wood boiler works very well but is a hungry beast for wood–it is labor intensive scrounging firewood, up to 18 cords a winter. Yeouch! I am looking forward to making a go of it when I receive your video’s and manual. Your tips and advice are most welcome and useful. Thx.
Frank, I got it. I’m 72 had a part time job at 15, never have took uninployement, never been out of work.
Done high school in 1958. All ways worked for myself. Retired at 63, but still work every day for myself.
I live in my own little compound, with my 98 year old Mom, Sister, Son and Grandson.
Electric keeps going up. I just got a Watt Meter and was shocked at how many watts things draw.
My water well would need a lot more solar than I first thought. I would like to start making solar cells, and hook them together every time I get one done. I’m not sure what size would be best to start with.
That’s where I am. Thanks for all you do to wake people up.
Thanks for sharing with us Frank. The system we plan will be to get completely electrically ofdf the grid. I will be devoting as much time as expenses allow as I live off a small VA pension but Ellie does work a good job.. Course expenses continue to go up. We have an auto for her work and I ride a motorcycle almost exclusively so that does cut expenses down. We are waiting for the videos and manuals to arrive and then I’ll know what we have gotten into. We have room for as large a system as we need, just a matter of time. We will be talking to you soon. Thanks
I’ve been strongly leaning toward the independent from the system position. I have recently lost a job I had for 26 years. The company gave a months notice that they were closing the doors and going out of business. I did find a job, part time only, but I need to get to a more self -reliant position. I have for many years thought ( dreamed) of solar and wind energy as one of many steps toward independence. My recent changes causes a stronger push. You said it right… don’t just be a spectator, be a doer. I need to get serious. I live in a rural area. my property has some property space to consider these options in a serious way. I do need to absorb this information and work toward the best option for my northeastern environment. Thanks for you personal touch. We’ll be in touch.
Frank, you have told my story almost perfectly. Unfortunately, most of the “middle class” folks have found ourselves in this position. I have been growing our food for a while, and we do purchase our “meats”, sugar, rice and items like that from the story, but our grocery bill is only $30 per week. We are older folks, and this life style was the normal for us. We just had to go back to our roots, and relearn all these things.
That’s why I ordered your program, to make my family more independent. Thanks for all that you do.
My husband had been thinking about a solar hot water heater, but I knew without the information to build it we would not do it. Then I saw your site and bought your solar package. We just bought our first home and so when we got our first full month utility bill I decided I needed to see exactly what we were paying. I was blown away to find out that out of $150 (which here in Arizona is low, so I hear, not low enough for me) our usage was really only $60, the rest was fees for having the privilege of using their electricity. We were not happy. We keep the heat down and wear sweats to stay warm. We are also on their “money saving” cycle, do laundry between 7pm till noon the next day. But I realized even if we cut back even more we will still be charged all the same fees. So really, the only solution is to be off grid. So that is what we are working towards. We have a well that also has a 1,000 gallon holding tank, so we use the water all week and then turn the pump back on during the weekend because weekends are less expensive also. My husband is going to install two solar tubes and will build them himself and of course we watch Craigslist all the time for free material. We are very blessed that he has a great job which allows me to stay home. I’ll be able to plant the garden soon, we will be ordering chickens for eggs and meat, we will have goats again for milk and meat. He is a country boy from Nebraska and when we first married I learned how to can food. We conserve as much as possible, even saving the rinse water in the sink or when we are waiting for the hot water to take a shower, it all goes in a bucket for the trees. We have had quite a bit of rain lately and have used every bucket we could find to save the water and have used it on veggies and trees also. There are so many ways to save and conserve and we are very blessed and comfortable.The best part about all of this is that first and foremost we love our Lord Jesus which has given us a love for each other that’s indescribable and we know no matter what happens we will get through it, we just have to use the brain He gave us to be prepared. So, Frank, thank you for all you do and thank you for all the great ideas and all the solar help. You are a blessing to us.
What a tough deal! I’ve been through some of that, especially being let go without any reasons at all. And I have certainly been moving as quickly as I can toward as independent as possible survival. I am also the husband of one wife who has stuck with me through it all. You’ll probably hear some similar stories. But there is only one thing that I cling to, that I think is necessary, and that is belief in Christ. Clutching at worldly security will never end up being a satisfying lifestyle. I have a lot of stuff, which I only have because of the grace of God, and I have always tried to treat it as a gift. I think I’m ready to give up any of it if God requires, if my neighbor really desperately needs, in terms of help. But I am trying to get productive enough and independent enough, that I can be a help to my neighbors when things turn dark and stormy. In the meantime, I find that there are many around me who are downhearted for various reasons, and sometimes it is helpful to just be a good listener (that principle is certainly one reason I listen carefully to “confessions”! ). I’m not better than others, but I am loaded with Christian joy, and I hope I can be a good servant. I don’t try to get people to go to a particular church, but I DO urge everyone to tet a good modern speech bible and read it regularly. Everything doesn’t work out the way I plan, but I am still one of the happiest people I know. I’ll pray for you and your family, sir. I was born in the depression, in 1932.
you sound like me.i’been doun the same road.times are tuff.my dad past in July.so me and my wife are playing tag, my mom wants to stay in her house and my brothers and sister wanted her in a rest home.so my income went way down.taking car of two homes.so when I read what you were offering, I knew this was it.thank you .this is going to be a great ride.
Thanks Frank, my wife, Kay, and I had that same thing occur 2 generations back. My two small children and new baby went through pretty much the same thing as you and your family. Politcians and Corproate America have grown out of control and completely forgotten, or are ignoring, the very reasons this country is going down the proverbal tubes. Now it’s totally out of control and will cause a possible revolution. Heaven help us then. I’m really not too bitter. I just would like to see some people in Washington and Corporate American Greed realize what is happening and begin the change. We were once a loved Country. Now everyone in the world thumbs their snooty noses at us and yes threatens us on a daily basis. Anyway, I can hardly wait to get started building my Solar Panels and Wind Turbine and getting a full garden going. I’m 73 years old and can hardly wait to get free of all this…….,……………..enough!
I applaud you and agree 100 percent that we should be less dependant on the world and find simpler ways such as gardening and inventive ways to make a living that both helps the economy and recycling and brings income. Although I am still in the work force, I have close friends and family that are not and I know there are tougher times ahead. God Bless you both!
Hi Frank,
really appreciate this e-mail. I think it’s rare to get anything in the inbox that isn’t a sales pitch. I believe you are building credibility and making deposits into the bank of trust. I, for one, agree wholeheartedly with your advice and am moving in that direction.
Coridally,
Joe
You sir weather your aware of this or not, are what America is all about. Randy
i was very moved by your story frank…having clean and free power has been a dream for as long as i can remember. stopped driving back in ’69 or ’70 cause i did not want to be a contributor to the pollution problem. i’m now a senior and am trying to live on a small limited budget (my pension),and although i have very little family left..i understand your story.and can empathize with your story. when i was still a kid i used to say that by the time i reach retirement age, there will be nothing left of anything no pension, just a kick in the but and told to get lost. anyway did not marry and have no children, as i did not want any in this time frame. what with big business controlling governments which are in no way part of a democratic system. anyway enough said…except one thing it is nice to know that in the younger generation, there are some people with an awareness as to what is going on; i leave you with that.
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Hello Mr. Bates
My wife and I were both divorced, found each other and got married in 1980. She had three children 4-2-1, that we raised without the help of their biological father. We had all the ups and downs as all family’s do. We were doing real good till we had a house fire, no one lost, but almost all of our possession’s were destroyed. We stood up counted our losses , and carried on. Then
we had a tornado take away most of our things again in “06”. We came out a little better this time.
Ins. paid the house off “YEA” but we are still putting it back together, (I drove truck , gone most of the time) . Now we find ourselves in the year 2011,Aug. 12. . I, get sick, really sick, I have contracted Legionar’s Disease, while I was in ICU, I had two heart attacks. But can’t cry over spilt
milk. That still didn’t damper our Idea’s we just got set back a bit. I still cant work COPD, Dot says no driving. And we are still healthy, or somewhat , still better off than others. I got my SSI so life slows down again We still love each other like yesteryear . We’ll talk later.
May God Be In Your Heart and The Wind At Your Back
Kerry
Hello Mr. Bates
My wife and I were both divorced, found each other and got married in 1980. She had three children 4-2-1, that we raised without the help of their biological father. We had all the ups and downs as all family’s do. We were doing real good till we had a house fire, no one lost, but almost all of our possession’s were destroyed. We stood up counted our losses , and carried on. Then
we had a tornado take away most of our things again in “06”. We came out a little better this time.
Ins. paid the house off “YEA” but we are still putting it back together, (I drove truck , gone most of the time) . Now we find ourselves in the year 2011,Aug. 12. . I, get sick, really sick, I have contracted Legionar’s Disease, while I was in ICU, I had two heart attacks. But can’t cry over spilt
milk. That still didn’t damper our Idea’s we just got set back a bit. I still cant work COPD, Dot says no driving. And we are still healthy, or somewhat , still better off than others. I got my SSI so life slows down again We still love each other like yesteryear . We’ll talk later.
May God Be In Your Heart and The Wind At Your Back
Kery
Hello Frank, Your story is a bit like mine except I was 69 when the boss called me in. My income only dropped 66% and now a year later we are struggling. Part of the garden is already planted.
I am determined to read your solar and wind manuals when they arrive. I hope and pray that the cost of materials will not be too high to implement the instructions you are mailing to me.
I was diagnosed with lung cancer in 2001. Following surgical removal of 50% of one lung, the surgeon was optimistic but the statistics read, “40% chance of survival for 5 years”. Since I’m not a ghost, it is safe to say I beat the odds. There was a miracle that played a large part but I won’t go into that.
Your “Power4Patriots” program could not have come at a better time. I, too, found myself unemployed after 5 years because our courier/transportation brokerage firm (in all 50 states) was brought by one of the very-guilty international banking firms you read about in the Washington news since 2006. Since I am 66, I decided to “retire” & go back to self-employment with 25+ years experience. My son, Dr Kayl, his mom & I are pooling our resources to become as self-sufficient as possible. Being able to get & stay off the power grid, along with the seed bank, will allow us to expand in other directions. For the first time, in my life, I can really see how the concept of “bartering”, like it was in our pioneering days, will really work. I am passing you website on to as many people as I can who will listen to me. You have a very powerful & well-thought message. We need to reduce as much as possible big government & it’s interference with our economy; get our economy BACK on a free enterprise footing [we have done it four times in the past, since we became a nation, eliminating our national debt with a very strong economy]; increase & enhance our small business communities & entrepreneur enthusaists; reduce & overhaul our entire tax structure; & allow our middle-class Americans regain their position in our society & economy as it was at the beginnimng of the 20th century. These are just for starters. God bless you & your family! Mike & Kayl in Colorado
Frank – Thank you for the testimonial. We are both retired and have been living on less for a while. I bought a greenhouse, but have not had much success with growing vegetables. Two years ago, I got quite a few tomatos, but last year only a couple.
After listening to Glenn Beck we have began storing up u groceries. After your book comes in, I might have some questions for you. Thank you and thank you for all that you are doing to help others.
Elaine
What to say,Frank!? Still ,all you guys, are in better position than I’m.Most of you are having wives, relatives, you are americans… I have no husband, but 2 grown kids (girls) away from me. I live alone, no relatives around, because I came to USA 23 years ago,to look for better life. I didn’t know English, I did work hard and still I’m working (I’m in my 70’s.now.) I know some people, from my country, but I’m not welcomed, they have families and think I’ll destroy their life. So I have no one to count on. Obviously, I can’t make a good living, I don’t dream for better any more. but trying to do what ever I can,t, just to survive. I ordered your invention, because I’ll send it to my very poor brother abroad, to help him to get rid of electric companies. Do you think it is a good idea?
Hello Frank, My situation is a little different. I’ve been a self employed carpenter much of my life. the big mistake I made was not saving for my retirement but my wife and I get a small amount of SS. I still work part time and do own our trailer converted to a house with 2and 1/2 acres. My plan is to collect parts here and there until I can build a some what decent power source. I cannot buy all the components at one time in my current situation. We have started to grow our own food and you all might want to study what GMO’s are and how it has changed our food supply not for the better. Thanks for your desire to help others become as independent has can be. My wife and I have been blessed even though hard times are all around us. After reading some of this mail we certainly are blessed. We all certainly need to be wise considering the greedy power company’s and you are doing a good work for all of us. Craig
My wife and I concur. I’m retired from U.S. Army and now 65 years old, and completely retired. We just bought six acres of land to build our Steel Metal Home beginning sometime this Summer 2013. I bought just about all of your works recently except for the gardening survival kit, etc. Sometime next Year 2014 when things are settled down in our new home I plan on using those kits that I just bought from you and will also eventually buy that gardening survival kit. After spending 22 years overseas, I am with you. But right now all I can do is look forward to receiving you emails with great information and focus on getting our house built and move in. I wish I was as wise as you when I was your age but never too late to learn. Hang in there, you’ve got friends!
Pat Fitzpatrick…..
In 2004 my brother dropped and 34’x14″x10″ laminated beam on me. It broke my neck and my lower back. I’m fused @ C6/C7 & L3/L4&L5. He also cheated me out of $12,000 of pay (said I didn’t finish the job). It caused the loss of everything we owned (home, vehicles, ect…). We had to live in a burnt out trailer (I remodeled it so we could have a place to stay). In June of 2011, I received my SS Disability and in June of 2012, I graduated from College (at the age of 54) with a construction management degree with a focus on building alternative energy sources (solar, wind and new energies). No jobs out there for a disabled construction manager though, especially in alternative energies. I recommend that everyone check into Bloom Energy. They have created a device that makes electricity from propane gas and air called the Bloom box. I powered all of my projects (on paper) with these devices. They aren’t available to the average homeowner but are being used by some of the larger companies in the US. Such as Google, Ebay, Coke Cola ect (more than I can list here). Eventually the plan is for a “Bloom Box” for residential use and it would enable the average household to disconnect from the power grid for around $3,000. They are also working on the use of bio-gases. Look all this up on line if you want to know more. I’m very interested in your product because it goes hand and hand with what I wanted to do when I graduated (green jobs that didn’t happen). We bought a house in Oct of 2012 (built in 1949) that isn’t very energy efficient and your system seems like it will help me learn what I need to know to get it there. The only thing I regret is not purchasing the hard copy of all the literature so I’d have an easier reference guide. My wife is a home care nurse and the hospital just sold the home cars business (she is going to take a $10,000-$27,000 pay cut with the new company after 20 years on the job). Good luck with your endeavors and I hope to hear from you soon.
C.A. Hopkins
P.S. My mother and father are from eastern Tennessee!
Hi! Mr. Bates. My wife suffers from migrien’s for year’s,because of cut’s in medcal and at the age of 52 she cannot draw off of medicare.We can see down the road that because of highier gas food and insurance ect.ect. We have and are going to look at solar,gardening and picking up can’s on the street.In saying that in some place’s california’s road’s are cleaner because of the lack of work,being laid OFF like you.In our area we have a lot of friend’s that have resorted to makeing ends meet by doing landscaping or cutting and the selling of firewood.But! as for the wife & I,we have one of the most powerful one in our life’s and that is the LORD JESUS CHRIST.That is my storie and I’m sticking to it.Our prayer’s are with you & family too!
Sounds like you where almost in my shoes.As far as work is concerned. I missed a pension by 3 month.No money, no health,to old to find a job.Had a wood burner for heat for a long,Switch to all electric hot water and heat just for the price.Now after 5 years they raised the price the same as
before I changed to electric.
Don
My husband and I have been self-employed for over 20 years. I had this experience in 1992. I said the same thing you did. We are doing very well with an accounting and tax business in our home office.
I PREACH this stuff to my clients. Don’t rely on others for your survival or welfare. Find a notch…a love….a passion and make it a business. Big business and government will not be there for you when you are down.
Bin their done that. We were so poor afterwards the only thing we could do for family entertainment was :: Sit Around And Watch Each Other Grow Skinny!!!!! I am hoping your material I ordered works and works well. Keep in touch young man.
Your new friends ;
Mr. MRs. William E. Peters
Frank: This is my third attempt at this. I’m a retired HR professional and spent my career in the Canadian hard rock mining industry.
Over the years I have hired a great number of people and, can count on one hand, the number that I found necessary to release.When you must fire someone it means that you made a mistake in hiring that person in the first place. None of us like to admit that we made a mistake. So, I was very careful in my recruiting practice.
There may also come the time, when economic conditions, forces a company to begin laying people off. I faced this in my last posting and the policy I introduced treated those being released with dignity, respect, and honesty. Some receive six months notice that they were on the “hit list”, the majority received three months notice.
My fellow HR types were all in agreement that the employees affected would find ways to have accidents to qualify for workers’ compensation. This feeling (of mistrust in workers) is very common.
But to everyone’s surprise (not us) we never had a problem. Some employees were given the opportunity to stay on (because of turnover) or take the severance package (a good one). and some did. Many of those who had to leave thanked the company for the long advanced notice as this gave them time to re-arrange their priorities, put off large purchases, and time to put their resumes “out there”.
Frank, the way you were treated is almost as if you were a dishonest person thus the company could not take the chance of having you around after you received your notice because they feared you might create some serious problems. This treatment is de-humanazing, insulting, and a sad commentary on the intelligence of management. But it is the way that most layoffs are handled these days.
I could go on but I feel that I made my point:employees are assets, treat them right in good and bad times.
Elmer Borneman
Chase, BC. Canada
I’m there now. Hours at work cut to 29/wk thank god my wife still has a good job but it’s tough.
Hi Frank, received your book in the mail two days ago. From what read so far, seems to be pretty
informative. I like the book, plan on keeping it if I can. I relate with you on your confession about
hard times. Thats because thats where I am at right now. Been looking for work on the internet
and to me it seems to be a joke. I have some means for starting my own business but a licence
and insurance are required by the state. If I operate with out these things trouble will follow.
Not meaning to give you my life’s history just illustrating to you I know what you’re saying. I doubt
I will do anything with this book I ordered for a while. But it will be good for knowledge and of
course for reference material.
Hello Frank ,I relie on my ccp & old age pensions, but i have good investments which help.
Sincerely Roy .
Frank,
Been there, didnt do the self sufficient thing, and was stuck in Corporate America until totally disabled on the job. I admire your choices, and apreciate your sharing.
Thank you for sharing your personal story. My heart has been heavy seeing what is happening in our world and within our government. We are all responsible for our families and ensuring that they are prepared to live a good decent life. Beyond being self reliant (which is key) I’m focusing on my children and instilling moral biblical values. Our society has become so self focused and self centered. My desire is to to prepare our family for the unknown, and to go forward in confidence that we have done everything that we possibly can within our means.
Thanks for sharing that Frank. May i say that you are quite the man to step up to the plate to take care of your family. I know men that would have just sat on their backsides, and just let the government take care of them with assistance – not that it’s bad i suppose, just that there are so many dependant upon those services.
May God continue to bless you and your family…and a big Texas welcome for making it to the South end of our great country!
Susan : )
Gee,
Your story sounds oddly familiar, all the way to surrendering my key, the walk out the door, no cleaning our my desk and the distinctly no-longer-friendly looking parking lot.
Been there, done that and still have the T-shirt.
As it turned out, a person I’d done some work for some time before came into a position in the company I was currently working for as a contractor. He immediately recognized me, requested a resume and hired me on at a 50% higher salary immediately after my contract expired. My career went upward from there until I left the company due to medical issues. Throughout my tenure with the company I had the opportunity to see a lot of people, including “managers,” come and go. Since I was something of a technical guru, it seems that employee value won out. Having an MBA I was targeted for management on the administrative side many times but declined so I could remain on the engineering side. My progress wasn’t as rapid but my job was very stable regardless of the company’s fortunes. It was a wise series of decisions.
Continued good luck to you in your future endeavors.
Best wishes.
Great story, Frank. Commendations on being a bold individual, willing to forge his own destiny.
Since you’re growing your own food, check out hydroponic gardening if you haven’t already.
Kids aren’t taught anything today. They only know electronics and haven’t the slighest idea hov and when to ue a hammer, pliers, or screw driver. They will know even less soon when schools close . Kids will be given a computer to use at home. Only God can help this country. Too much politics and not enough morals or values.
Right on Frank!
Thinking of moving south myself. Taxes are too high in Tennessee to suit me. Maybe
southern Ky. or S. Carolina. In Whitley Cty Ky. you don’t have to pay any property taxes
if you are a senior citizen. (60 & over) and your house is less than 70,000.00.
My brother, I am where you were at back then. Looking for work and depending on God to
Provide. Please keep my family and I in your prayers.
Thanks in advance,
Steve Cox
So far I like what I have read and
plan to use the materal to help myself .What i have read sounds douable.
thanks for your concern
Bill
Order my book “Kirrama”/Life on an Australian cattle station,the e-book is only $3.99 I think you would enjoy reading it. Hard times and challenges! I am as we speak writing the continuing story.We know a family there that in the nineteen eighties was doing exactly what you are now. He made a wind generator out of a 55 gal drum with a small windmill wheel attached to the top to generate his power. (this is not in the first book as we had not met them at that time.)
I’ve just added it to my Amazon wishlist.
I admire how you were able to get on through life. Its amazing to know that despite life’s hurdles you find a way to move on and even share how to survive the inevitable hard facts of life. And thus with your God-given wisdom, you now share these great products of the mind. Sharing is caring and with that in mind, i believe that God will continue to shower the blessings. More power to you and your family!
Thanks Frank, you are a lucky guy, my wife left me and took everything, after that happened to me, but I did get the house (still owe mortage, but I do own {payed for 20 acres it sits on}, 16 acres free and clear of mortage). I am glad there are still some good women out there, does she have a sister ( just kidding). That really left me with a lot of circumstances, I was navy special forces so I can provide for myself, but that doesn’t pay my power bill or mortage, I must get off the grid. Thanks for putting the information out there. For your sake and mine, I am a Journeyman Tool & Die Maker, I can make almost anything. We may can share some ideas. God bless, to you and your family.
Hi Frank,
I was fired in May 2012 exactly in the same way. I worked for the same company for 20 years and it took only 15 minutes for the entire process . I was outside of the company building and I realized that this is the end of such long period of my life.. The stress is indescribable. It is petty that now so many Americans have to go thought the same procedure, similar stress and unknown future. Now I found hope in my friends and my future looks much brighter in 2013 than in 2012. I will always remember the day I was fired. It is like a bad dream.
Anyway I am deeply impressed by your confession and I would like to have your permission to use your words and your name on my website. In this way I think that we can share our feelings and thoughts in such difficult moments of our life.
Krassimir,
I have plenty of things that I keep secret, but if I put it here on the blog it is free for you to use. Please just offer a link back here to your readers.
Frank, your story is truly the American experience! Its quite interesting that these events (massive layoffs, corporate greed, robbing pension plans, closing plants and businesses, robbing the middle class to create an either/or society–rich or poor) occurred exactly as written in Japan beginning in 1993 and continuing through today. The New World Order has begun…it is not a fairytale. This huge focus on “healthcare” is ONLY an issue because it is a moneymaking opportunity with plenty of victims available for experimentation and eventual death. The top 5 percent of the world’s population has an obviously vested interest in total global economic and population control reserving what’s left of the earth’s resources for their pursuits. Your story is fascinating, so intriguing that I know it could possibly be designed by “them” and yet, I remain loyal.
Aloha Frank! For everything there is a reason. I know some people are sick of hearing this, but nonetheless, it’s still true. Had this not happened to you, you wouldn’t be in a position to help all that you have, including me. My wife and I talked about “what ever happened to the days when our grandparents used to be self-sufficient … and next thing you know, a few days later, I came across you website. Through adversity and perseverance, you and your family have grown stronger together, become more self-reliant, and prosperous … this is exactly what American patriots do … make better their situation than what they were in previously! How appropriate your business name truly is! I thank you for all you’ve done to help your fellow Americans take back their lives! I’m looking forward to getting started on these projects and will let you know how you’ve helped me and my family once completed. Thank you again! Aloha and God Bless You, Your Ohana (family) and Your Business!
Frank:
Thank you for sharing your story. I have been self-employed for 10 years as a result of the exact same situation. As I walked out of the building that day I promised myself I would never put my families security in someone else’s hands ever again. What began as asmall construction company doing window replacements for Home Depot is now a Building Automation firm doing high profile work from Boston to Washington DC. The point is not to brag, but to encourage others to do the same. The truth is I am no smarter than the next guy, but I am determined not to fail & when I am knocked down I get back up & try again. Believe me, hard work/long hours & determination are essential, but the rewards make it all worthwhile. To all who read this – take control of your life – find what you love doing, devote yourself to it, do it ethically and at least try. You will never know what “might have been” unless you do. May God bless you in the effort.
Hi Frank
Your situation whit losing your job is the nightmare that I faced not to long ago
I am sorry that you experience this and am glade you were able to come out on top.
I seen this situation in my future and decided to start a repair shop out of my grudge and sub my income. So I understand and am glade you started your website and I was able to run across it.
Look forward to extinguishing the choke hold that big power comp. have on me and my family. This will be a long road for my budget but it will be worth it in the end. I am passing this on to my brother as well he has been talking about going to solar eng. but has not the money that it takes to buy it from the big corporate company’s this will make affordable for him as well.
Thomas
know what you mean, adopted four children from a foster care program, we are ok, but all my savings are gone attorneys are expensive. yes in a right to work state they can let you go for no reason, but the same could happen any day to any of us. with me being 0ver 55 it would take an act of god to get another job, no one wants to hire someone that old.
Hi Frank,
I know the feeling. My wife and I lost our job in Homer Alaska in the middle of winter managing a lodge. twenty-four hours topack and move. nowhere to go no, or very little money in our pockets. As we left Homer the manager of Bestwestern motel had her sister moving in to take our job. The sister had come up from Nevada for drug rehab to avoid prosacution for imbesalment. After her 30 days of rehab she returned to Nevada. within less than two weeks she was back with her whole famely. thats when we lost the job. Sayed in Anchorage over night with a friend that night. We got as far as Toke Alaska that day and sayed over night. -60 degease with a win chillof – 98. Our 280z froze up that night and had to be thawed out the next morning. $30. Traveled all day wraped in blankets because the heter was frozen. About a hundred + miles down the road across the Ukon we stayed at another motel leaving the car run all night. 40 blow. When we caught the ferry the next morning we had dropped down off the high platto to five above. Wegot to Kechacan two days later broke and no where to stay We lived in the 280z for to weeks picking up change and pennies got a job managing a bording house And driving school bus. My wife worked at the hospital and we were there for a year befor we could save enouph to return to Oregon. Homeless Broke and cold. Had to sell me 67 comero in Anchorage to get to Kechacan. Sarting over is hard But together we made it. I’m still working, Will be 75 in May. Have enough in my 401k to withdraw to install a solar system at our home in Sweet Home, Oregon. A two bedroom 1947 Bungalow. I’m looking forward to speeking with you as we develup our system.We thank God daily for what we have. Thank you for what you are doing to help make this a cleaner and better way of living
Bill Morley
I am glad you came out of your rough times. Some of the kids had a bad time but we stick together ans help each other. Now that is a good feeling
Guy
I was reading this and almost was expecting a sales pitch for another product– I was relieved not to get one.
I too spent 2 years without a job and went through my savings and I feel for you especially having children at home. I hoep that things have gotten better for you and family.
Frank, thanks for sharing it’s a hard thing to do I not only had that happen but on top of that I found out that under the stress that I had diabetes type1 and a number of other medical challenges after full medical evaluation that ended up to where I was on able to work and had to fight to get disability and my wife was already on disability so you know how the government is and took forever for my disability to get approved so yes we cut back big time from me working for a major airline to having no income to disability was very tough but like you family we stuck it out and still to this day watch every penny and put our daughter through college as we promised her grants loans pennies off the ground what ever it takes our daughter gets for schooling and as parents we will do w/o so she has what she needs. I,m not sure if I will be able to build this system of yours but piece by piece I guess it will get done I hate the “system”…..I want to stop paying those unnecessary costly raises in elec bill’s etc. I now walk with a cane, have had 7 heart attacks first one age of 42, few confirmed mini strokes since then and few other things I won’t get into to but I’ m alive and if I go to bed at night and my eyes open in the morning i’m grateful for another day………….blessed be
I SURE HOPE U GUYS ARENT CLOSET CONSERVATIVES,,,,RWEBB
Frank-
When did this happen? I don’t see any timeline on this, but maybe 9 months ago I guess. Of course, like many others, the way things are going, it makes sense I need this project. It will be a challenge, but maybe not since I myself installed and removed facilities and later maintain air navigation facilities in my 41 year career in the FAA. I also have something on my chest to tell, whenever the Federal Aviation Administration comes up in a conversation we think of a air traffic controller. But there are many jobs that make up the FAA. Like, people in radar, navaids, and environmental, these people make sure the controller the tools to get the planes in and out of airports. Plus, of course their are people behind the scenes, like administrative, engineers, planning. The controller could go home and relax after is shift, but I couldn’t, I worried if I put a instrumental landing system back to normal after doing routine maintain on it or get called out in the middle of the night to fix one on the runways during a snow storm with only one runway open. Now retired in 2011 and doing nothing is relaxing for about 2 years. I see this as a hobby to play with benefits for our household. Sandy, my wife, says get a job. She thinks this is a gimmick, but she hasn’t look at material to really make a opinion. We are getting by, but I see this as an improvement for us.
As a country we have been sold on the ‘throw it away get a new one’to the point of bankruptcy. Time to ‘get real’ and tell the salesmen ‘no sale’..
You and your wife are a strong couple. It is amazing what we can and do in a drastic life change. We also have had our ups and downs and we had each other and our family. The Lord watches over us and acts in different ways inside of us. Thanks for sharing your story. It is real people that make the difference.
hi frank;
I’m 84 yrs retired, lost my wife of 20 yrs, had a prenuptial agreement, so I am by myself in her home, which has gone thru probate, and I don’t know how long I’ll be here. my brother died in texas
and I got word that probate on the property awarded me the property. It has 2 yrs back taxes due
but I don’t have the money to pay taxes. I can’t verify this deiema because I never received word or confirmation, verbley, letter wise. So I have no land to plant, nor a place to construct a solar
system even though I want to. I appreciate thye opertunity.
sincerely
Ray
Sorry to hear what you went through but it is obvious when one door closed another door opened….kinda like going from the darkness into the light. More and more people are now seeking answers…especially those who have ears to hear and eyes to see. Things are not going to get better but will continue to deteriorate. Our family is LDS and we have been told for years to get out of debt, plant a garden, can your produce, prepare every needful thing and to become self-reliant. Many have not listened or heeded this counsel and futures are looking bleak with increased unemployment etc. Why some sleeping through this is beyond me! We have followed some of this counsel but we want to take it one step further and put in a windmill and solar panels to get off the grid. We still have some time to do this but I know time is running out…We are anxiously awaiting our manuel and video’s to get started. Thank you for putting forth this information….May God continue to bless you and your family!
Ditto my new friend! Thanks for the info. Dale.
I would say sorry to hear your story, but would rather say CONGRATULATIONS to pulling yourself up by the bootstraps. What doesn’t kill us makes us stronger…and more resourceful. Proud that you and your family have taken the path less traveled – the one of being 100% responsible for yourself (and teaching me things in the process). I’ve always wanted to look at living much smaller and off grid and while sad, your story is also inspiring. I haven’t had a chance to get into the materials yet, but should this week. In the process of selling my house in the South and moving to Alaska. Once there, I want to go “off grid” as much as possible. Going to live really small and simple…back to the basics. Thank you for making your program available.
I was injured a little over 4 years ago;I worked for BNSF Railroad for 30 yrs.After I was injured you would think they would help me out for a job well done also but alas all I got was nothing but BS from them they even said it was my fault that the equipment was faulty.Me and my wife started to look for ways to trim done our expenses because of my wage loss. I happened to look on some web sites and came across your add and I thought to myself why not try it.I have been going through some of the materiel and I’m going to try and do the things I’ve read.Hopefully I can have something working in awhile.I limited to what I can do by my injury but I have some friends that can help so we’ll see what happens.Good Luck and god bless,Rene
Waiting for the packet to come in, (DVD’s and Manuals), can’t wait to get started on the solar, wind and hydro power generation. I have wanted to do this for years but ran from the cost. After seeing some of the quick videos I have set my goals to be 100% of the power grid by the end of 2013 while helping other do the same. I have several ideas to enhance a system to maximize it’s effectiveness. I will keep you guys informed of my progress.
My wife and I are in a similar boat only my situation is different I was hurt on the job and fired so I am Sueing my former employer however as you know the wheels of justice turn slow so in the mean time we barely scraping by both of us have had to cash out our retirement just to live.as well as borrow money from our children just to buy food I live in the northeast so a garden right now won’t be happening until spring time
Are there more inshigts into cottage type bussineses? I like to do things with my hands and find the old ways of making and mending everyday needful things facinating. It whould be very helpful to be the town (neighborhood) cobbler, soap maker, bee keeper, candle maker, etc..
I have been refining my plans on building a modern Ice House. I also want to find more information about smoking and curing meat.
So if you have any helpful info please let me know.
last year i was in a car accident and it left me without any income at all, now its still a long rod back to recovery but , life is what you make of it. next year i’m buying some land and moving off the grid. i have been taking solar classess .
It’s great to hear ya’ll are doing so great after all the difficulties. It is going to be a little while before I can really get deep into some of your materials but I do plan to use them. We have a garden and have a lot of plans for the five acres that we finally own. Keep up the great work and I look forward to hearing all your messages.
Hey frank I feel you on that. I’ve started a veg garden but really want to invest more time into the solar power. I am not really fond with electricity but hopefully with your time n help from others at power 4 patriots I can make it. Thank you
Im glad that you and you family have been able to keep going though all that has happened.
Iv’e been growing a garden, well, forever I think. Nothing better than pickin something that you have grown and knowing whats in it. And now , thanks to you I will be growing my own power.
Again , thank you.
I still think Solar Power is the answer. Soon some one will get tecky and make solar panels more sensitive to just light and more effective.
Thank youPati Fickess
Although I was raised in the City of Detroit…I was fortunate enough to have family from my father’s side who were farmers…I learned well…I learned to grow vegetables and how to can, sew, quilt and take care of myself off of the land…I will continue to do this whether my husband and I stay in Michigan or if we make a major move to Texas for most of the year…I plan to look ovet your program and try to do this myself…I am a pretty industrious little lady and after working as an outside Tech for AT&T for years…I LIKE a challenge. This sounds like it’s right up my alley…I am a survivor…an avid gun enthusiast and hunter…I fish and what I take (whether hunting or fishing) I clean and process myself…We need to pass the art of survival on to our children and grandchildren…That is my plan…Thank you for your upfront story…We all have been there at one point in time or another…I choose not to go back…
Hello Mr. Bates.
Thank you for your email, I found it interesting. I am sorry for all you and your family had to go through. Thank you for your time to help educate me!
My daughter who is in the Navy will be coming home this summer and she wishes for me to join her in the house that she hopes to purchase. We recycle and are looking into hydroponic gardening and going solar will be part of being greener. We do want to minimize our carbon foot print as much as possible.
Sincerely, Elisabeth.
quite a story, I’m retired so I donn’t have that problem anymore. But there was a day when I worried about it.
That’s pretty much where I am right now. I am now looking into ways to cut back also, that’s why I bought your material on solor energy! I have some income coming in with SS, but that barely gets me by right now. I too, have moved here from the north, and highering here is very slim. I have been in various fields of construction for the past 20+ years, I’m also looking for work to get myself out of this hole I feel I’m in.
They say there is help out there for peoplw who need it they are wrong…I fell off ladder last week trying to repair roof I broke arm shoulder tore muscles in right arm..rupured 5 vertabrea in back all 5 are bleeding…hurt both legd I fell. Ackwards 12 off ladder when it turned over on to cement…I am wheel chair now with bladder and bowel incontananace…what a mess ..continued from 63 year old raising grand children I can soup/bean/chicken chili/turkey/etc every week we truly live off the farm..our heater went out 4 months ago/heat pump went outlast year we live in a $399,000 home that we can not even sell for what we owe we belive in god with all our heart and we are happy..having things is not what makes us happy..it is living /laughing/making home ice cream/and praying to God that makes whole…we buy very little from store/so we smile a lot kids sing and dance a lot/ it is so funny all the good things in life are really free I tookneverthing I had to buy your paket..the last $31 left 15 cents in bank…I do not have to worry about gass I do not have any that needs it..I only cry @ night when me and God seezz it
I am a 63 year old grandmotherand I do understand totally what you are talking about! My husband has dementa caused from a injury in Vietnam. When a hatch cover on board ship fell on his head causing sever damage I have fought with VA since 2006 they keep turning hin diwn for pension..my 38 year old daughteris terminally ill and we have been raising 3 grandchildren for 3 years. Kids are 3..5..13..we are on the verge of loosring our home our 93 v an is not working and the 85 truck my uncle left me just quit working..last weekend Dr told us my daughter would notlive 24 hours she is still alive holding on we grow our own garden,have chickens/turkeys/but we are still going under..they say there
I’m on board. Selfsufficiency and Independence where it’s at !!!!!!!
Hi Frank
Just read your e-mail that you sent me. I too have been through alot over the years and it was largely due to the corporate BULLYS as you call them. This is the reason that I purchased your Power for Patriots Plan. I am very excited and when I receive it I will begin the process of becoming more self sufficient. Hope to hear from you soon.
Good luck in all you do and here is to being more self sufficient
Respectfully John Emerson
Hello,thanks for the confession but I have to tell you I’m way ahead of you and your story. I’m 56 years old now,and 16 years ago while working as a construction manager running large government projects in SD Ca. I found myself with numb fingers,80% lose of sight in my left eye,tripping and stumbling and falling off ladders for no apparent reason. After 8 mo. of testing at various hospitals it was determined I had MS! So not being able to perform and being a insurance risk,that was the end of my career. Unlike your self I wasn’t blessed with a caring ,understanding wife,after 36 years she got around to telling me I had ruined her life.So with that not caring for conflict I told her thank you,left her everything but the shirt on my back and her disposable income
( my SSI disability ) and moved to Az. Yes it’s true we can live on much less than we think when forced to. Thanks to you and your program my survival mode has kicked in ! So thanks again.
Hi Frank, This sounds much like my story. Years back I had been a service technician for Montgomery Wards and had self transferred 2 times but still had 10.5 years of unbroken service with the company when things went sour for the company and they went from a 13 man shop to an 8 man shop. I had a motorcycle accident that laid me up for 11 weeks, at about the same time and one week after being back to work I got the call to the office. Fortunately, I had been dabbling in my own business for all those years and went full time at that point, so it was a pretty easy transition for me. I can understand the pain of those that get the ax without having anything to fall back on.
Hey Frank,
I appreciate the advise and like you, I know we can’t depend on anyone but ourselves when it comes to the welfare of our home and family. I lived in a very fast paced corporate world and I too decided to sell my home and move south. I planted a garden, and now have a pressure cooker, canning has become a big way to save money, and I feel it’s healthier for me as well. I purchased rain barrels to water the garden and I look forward to putting solar energy in my home. I’m a big advocate of DIY projects and look forward to the solar project. I have a friend that is my rock and is my motivation for such projects, I hope to have this in the works by summer. May God bless you and your family for reaching out to the public with an affordable alternative to change their comfort and ease of stress in life.
Thanks Much,
Carol
I wish they would teach everyone how to live like both of you and your family had to. Best to know how to live on almost nothing and make a dollar go far and think about what is really the most important parts of living first AKA how to survive, then the rest you earn is spent wisely and invested, etc. I cannot stress how very important it is for people to know how to live on so much less and find that all that material so called stuff is not going to make one the happiest or even happy. It is best to bring the young ones up knowing how to live happy without so much than have to go the other way. I have learned that since I was a child and believe me knowing how to live on so much less first off sure makes it easier the rest of your life and also teaches one how to be motivated and put your values in the right order. Enough said.
Frank–kudo’s to you and you wifre for being strong–most people these days do not know how to survive as the two of you have—you have to be at least 50 years old to remember the things for survival and that is not x-box’s or cell phones–it is good ol’ American inguinity —
Respectfully–
Tom & Joyce Moore
Brighton, Colorado
I know exactly where you were, I was also let go but mine is still on going. I was laid off July 17, 2009. I will remember that date for the rest of my life, not only because I lost my job and turned my family upside down but because I was on workmens comp with such strong restrictions that I can not go get a part time job, but I do not get anything from them because it was my muscles that were hurt and in MN muscle injuries are not rateable. I am so glad that you were able to find something that you were able to do to get your family back on track. I will pray for you to have continued success. Oh, by the way I have returned to school but because I am older it will take me longer then the younger kids in college. If you know of any scholler ships available I would much appreciate the information.
Thank you and God Bless
Nancy Hogate.
Thank you. I appreciate what you are doing and understand very well what you have been through. I am already making plans for growing vegetables and fruit and a lot of other things. I sew and can make my own clothes mostly but I have been very ill for 15 years and have been learning a lot of things over again since my massive stroke 15 years ago. I lost 80 % of my right brain and it took 6 years for me to learn to talk, type and all the other things I did when I was younger. Thank goodness it was after I was 70 and when I began to get my right brain back just recently I have a lot of memories to help now. I also had cancer and they almost killed me, had 5 heart attacks in two days and if that was not enough, had four more strokes until I had lost 80% of my eyesight, hearing and right brain. My husband died because he was crippled and the doctors destroyed him like they tried to destroy me except I refuse to have any more of their tests and medications and do not even drink city water, I make my own and my own medicine. So I am finally beginning to heal. Thank goodness my house and car are free and clear except for taxes and Insurance. . Thank you again and I will be looking for your emails every day. Louise Morton
I am a victim of (down sizing), I worked for the same construction company for (17) years. I was always on time and never took missed vacation. The construction business has suffered greatly over the past (4) years, and trying to find a job at 61 isn’t any fun. The same old reasons for not being hired, age, and ability to preform heavy construction at my age. I was a superintendent who worked his way up throught the ranks and because I worked instead of going to school to further my education and now if you don”t have a BS degree the employers won”t even consider you for my former position. Insperation is to say the lest now just plain old will power. I’m glad you have taken control of your situation. I would like to start consulting any who would need my ability to organize and help the fellow people who have found themselves in the same situation. I look forward to conversing with all who are feed up with our current economy and banking fatcats who have us at their mercy. Frank lets all take care of our need to see the little man through this mess. Thanks for listening.
Yes. Sometimes it takes a wake-up call to get started in the right direction. Although I agree that a goal in life is to not be dependent on anyone else for survival, it is also OK to mine the system. In my case, I abandoned small business (riding stable and horse farm in Massachusetts) for a job as a scientist for a charismatic company in New Mexico. That parlayed into a good job for New Mexico state government. I retired in 2010 with a pretty good pension as well as some decent investments. Along the way, I built a 3000 sq ft passive solar, superinsulated home with my own hands, doing all the trades including plumbing, HVAC, roofing, electrical, plastering and stuccoing while working a full-time job. Yes a supportive wife is invaluable. I’ll always treasure watching my wife dig our septic system with our 1968 Oliver backhoe. So we have a pretty valuable home with no mortgage. We just installed a commercial, grid-tied 8.3 KW solar PV system and have gotten our first check from the utility company. And, despite having literally no dirt near the house, we have a number of fruit trees and four raised bed, French intensive vegetable beds for tomatoes, carrots, beans and chiles.
So congratulations for making the move to independence and out of the rat race. And thanks, too, for encouraging others to become self-reliant. You do have some pioneers in spirit out there among the last vestiges of the commune movement of the 60’s and 70’s, as well as intellectual descendants of Helen and Scott Nearing and their Green movement of the 40’s and 50’s.
Hi Frank. Yes I know what a good feeling it is to be more in control than what most people are at this moment. I am an organic gardener for 35+ years. My husband and I raised our kids in the country (or the boonies) as our kids called it. We raised our own beef; we had chickens for the eggs and meat; we had our own propane tank; we had a 100 foot by 100 foot garden. I raised the vegetables and herbs we ate. I learned to can, freeze and dry what we grew. We had a wonderful pear tree and a crab apple.
Yes , I know what a great feeling of security you have when you take care of your own family and you know they are not wanting for anything even when the weather gets bad or the paycheck is short.
I am wanting to get back to that again. We live in the city now and our kids are grown and gone out of the house. We have four-legged children though.
My question is this: can I build and use the solar panel and the wind generator in the city? Who do I check with to see if there is an ordinance against having this equipment on our property in the city?
Hello Frank. I am not so good with words so all I can really say is thank you for your story. Your story is what got me motivated And eager to learn about solar and wind power. I do however have a question. My family uses on average of about 2091 Kw hours a month so how big and what kind of a system would I have to build to reduce my bill to almost nothing or to just get off of the grid completely. Thank you again for your Inspiration and for getting my behind motivated to do something for my family.
Frank,You sound like a no gray person meaning yes or no.I like that, I’m that way.I’m 57 and have worked in the Natural and Propane business for 37 years. I have my Master HVAC, Plumbing Master,Master Electrical and Master Gas Fitter License.I carry the company’s Class A Contractors License.I crunch the numbers on the contracts. I have always looked at solar heat and solar electric.Not sure about the savings do to I’m in Virginia with limited sun light. My next door neighbor has been doing both solar heat with wood outside boiler.He also has installed Solar Electrical pannels.He is really into it. I expect $15-20,000. Small house no kids.He will never get a pay back.What do you think would save me the most using the sun?Do you know of any study that has been done showing the amount of availiable sun light in an area of USA per year? p.s. Good Job, Thank you and your wife for what you’re doing it’s a Good Thing
Frank, A very interesting story and glad you sent it to me, I am retired and live on enough land that I can and do have a garden, The Stock market has not been good to me and I am constantly looking for way to reduce my expense, I am pretty handy at building things and this should be a very interesting project, and to be honest with you I am a little bit skeptical of this and will not put a lot of money into it until I can see benefits from it . Carl
Hi frank.
Thanks for your personal experience . I’am looking forward to receiving my package, so I can start my protect And thank again .Juan
Your story was compelling as it is the most timeless story in history, it is always in the criucable of adversity that we find the metal we are made of. I grew up so poor that I couldn’t pay attention, and I was picked on and beaten regularly for just being poor. I swore I would never do that to me or my future wife or children. So I did that but never counted on calculating infidelity and systematic robbery followed by divorce, blind sided me completely and left me with very little to live
On. I am hoping to first use your ideas to free $$$ to breath and set up shop to build for others and build $$$ to be comfortable. I look forward to seeing any and everything you are
Willing to share
Frank,
I have almost mirrored exactly the chain of events you described and thus the reason I have started my own business as well.
Thanks for the encouragement!,
Eric
I went through the exact same thing a few years ago. It;s shocking. It was really bad for me because I was over 60 years old.
Dear Frank!
Thank you for “spilling your beans” to me, although, i was not surprised due to of being in simillar situation myself;
-after 42 years in Culinary Industry from washing dishes to Executive Corporate Chef and Manager for well known restaurants in Northern California, I came to conclusion that used to be a piece of cake for me to walk in establishment, present my portfolio and start to work.
Today I am 5 months shy from 65 and I should be lucky if I can get dishwashers position or in best situation being line-cook for $12.00 to $15.00 maximum per hour. Single, at the time, with bills hoovering above me from 1-st to last of the month, noticed your add and am willing to better my personal life and possibly put “the beef on my table” more than twice a month. The interdependency is also in y drive toward my future, no matter how long or short that might be?
This days living on So. Sec.,/Disability and with approximate $1000 income, your plan will save me, presumable, about $75.00-$80.00 each month. I, just like you, long time ago have learn to live on much less from what I had “spoil” me self with.
Anyway, just want to thank you for sharing the American Dream with e.
Respectfully;
Charley Savnik
I think I am starting to do things right now by buying your information on solar power. I am on ssd and don’t have a lot of money to waste. I live on a total of 1200.00 dollars a month. So as you see buying your system on solar power to cut down on my electric is a thing I need to do so I can save money. I have to buy parts a little at a time. I have all ready got my solar cells. I dont know if I have enought yet. I will buy more soon. This way I will have more .I still can’t wait till I get the information from you then I will know for sure what I will need to get. I still don’t know how to hook up the batterys and how many I will need.I am new to all this solar power stuff.
Thanks
God Bless
Steve
Thank you for sharing your experience, it is inspiring. I am working toward independence and self-sufficiency.
I feel your videos and manals are worth more than the $27 you charged. I already am self-reliant, in that I perform my own home renovation, store many months of food, burn wood in the spring and fall times of year, shop smart, don’t waste money on things we don’t need, and conserve whenever I can. I am looking forward to geting the $27 video and manual package, and thanks for the link so I can read up before getting the package in the mail. I am hoping to spend the time to add this solar panel(s), turbine and hot heater compnents to my home. Even if the sytem does not completely offset the coldest time of year here (about three months), I believe it can more easily off set the utility bills during the other nine months of the year. Thanks.
Dear Frank Bates,
Like yourself I too was let go but under different circumstances. I had breast cancer. I opted for reconstructive surgery. The business I worked for didn’t approve my timing, initially I was let go.
I was scared … until it didn’t work any longer, being afraid, then I began to see life differently. I wanted to become self sufficient. Not depending upon the ” Fat Cats” I now am enrolled in college with a dream to complete a degree in Health Science. Someday I will have a practice. I will encourage others to become aware of health. To grow their own food. Empower others with my testimony of hope even if ” they” say we are in a recession. Personally, I don’t receive this message any longer, instead I see it as opportunity! To look out of the box. To explore. And most importantly, not listen to the norm!
This summer I will be growing my own food. I wait for my seed bank to arrive with anticipation. Spring is around the corner and I must become prepared. Any encouragement you can give will be received with an open mind & heart!
Thank you
Sincerely,
Elaine Jamison of North Highlands, CA.
Thanks for your confession. Not many people will air their laundry like u have. I have not received my package yet, but look forward to it. Wish me luck.
Thanks Frank for your story that had a happy ending. I know you are absolutely right about being self reliant. Congratulations!
the rise and fall of this artificial system , is a thing which happens often, both individually and nationally. it would be wise to place our primary dependance on a more natural and sustainable system, such as the one that drives this earth , and maintains life . wisdom is the accumulation of knowledge which is the accumulation of understanding which is the accumulation of information which is most often gotten through trial and error . when we as individuals share the information gained through our efforts of trial and error the path to understanding and using that system will be much shorter. Thank you Mr bates.
Thanks Frank; I totally agree that it’s time to become self reliant. Aside from the inPpevitable financial trouble OUR country will face it’s sickening that we have allowed our food supply to become so centralized and non nutritious. It’s deplorable that the most innovative people in the world living in the greatest social experiment in history can’t see the roots of our nations problems. I am very concerned about gun control in light of the recent tragic shootings. I wish Charlton Heston were still here to lead our NRA. We need strict gun control measures immediately. Every head of household should be required to own at least 1 gun and learn to use it safely and effectively. We can’t depend on our government to protect us from every domestic threat. If 1 trained and armed citizen had been in the Colorado theater the shooter was silhouetted by the exit sign and muzzle flash and could easily been dropped before he got 3 rounds off. As long as there have been sheep there have been wolves. Henry Ford said it best , ” any man who believes that the government will take care of him should examine the American Indian”.
Hay Frank,
Thanks so much for your words of advice. You are so right about living simple and not having to rely on others I offer you a word of my own. Ten years ago i started keeping farm stock, ducks, chickens, geese and goats. i have two PET donkeys. back then feed coast about $3 for just about any thing that came in a 50lb. bag. the goats and chickens did what they do best, they had lots of off spring. I was working full time, as i am now. then gas went from $1.30/Gal. due to the greed of gov & oil co.. people stopped making feed and started making alcohol to go into automotive fuel and feed is now running from $10 to $14 a bag. I had to get red of the goats I now spend about $35 per week to feed the rest. I could not get that much in egg money and I find it cheaper to buy chicken then to feed them. I don’t know the better between the long hall and the short hall. driving 15 miles to buy chicken or driving 15 miles to buy feed so as to pick your chicken fresh from your garden.( so to speak ) If you can do good in that venture, please clew me in as to how you managed it. Thanks,
Wayne H.
Thank God the self reliance began for us in ’79. We began a just-for-fun business that we soon discovered there was a market for. Then in 2006 hubby had a five way bypass and his boss decided that the company couldn’t have him around anymore becuse the insurance would put them under. So…our business has gone full time and we’ve had to hire. Things can change very quickly.
Thanks so much for the pieces of advice. I really appreciate it. But my own condition is a bit critical, i lost my job three months ago without committing any crime and since then i have being struggling to survive with my family. The challenge i am facing now is how to finance the solar power system project and at least couple one just start from somewhere. There is market in my country (Nigeria, Africa) and there is no power stability in my country. So my product is highly needed in my country and to meet the need of the people i need to to start from mini system because the highest populated people in my country are families that manage a room apartment like myself. To cut the story short if you have any fruitful advice for me on how to succeed, i will be highly grateful if can give that to me urgently.
Thanks.
Marooph.
IBID, Frank,
President Bushes bushwhacked me starting in 1990. I reached my “peter principle” in the Corporate mealy then, and then realized that my personal talents could carry me for the rest of my life- doing what I am good at to pay for my creativity, and enjoying the rewards that accompany exercising my skill sets for others.
Even as facilitated as I am, I have not yet made the dive into paying for my footprint by being self sustaining. I am looking forward to sharing your collection of technology to become a responsible human being.
My business is unique, and may be worth looking at in my web site. I am a facilitator of good ideas and fabricator of ends to those means as well. Thank You.
Comment: Technology is not always hard-wired. We invented it to serve ourselves, and now it must serve the living planet as well.. Nice stuff so far!
I have always wanted to start a buisness at home but i havent had any luck yet. still working on it though anyone have any good ideas would be welcome.
Frank, I feel your pain because I’ve been there before. In my younger years that has happened to me and like you I picked up my shoe-strings, put the nose to the grind stone and fought back. The older you get, the harder it gets. I now go to do jobs that I say will take me 15min and 3hrs later I finish. My Mother told me as a child that ” Her mind was trying to cash checks that her body couldn’t cover”. Now at the age of 63 I am just now understanding her plea. One thing I have learned is the truth of When God closes a door he opens a window of oppertunity and its up to us to take advantage of that opertunity. Thanks for your confession as it will help all who read.
God Bless
Frank, thank you for the insight, but in this day and time you are not the only one. We as a people must turn back the hands of time to a time when insight and invention was the norm, not how long can I stay on unemployment.
You have presented a way for some people to gain that inventiveness along with the insight to make a difference. Frank, you have shown people the path along with the guide post to achieve a better life, maybe start or to expand an existing business. Your program will cause discussions and bring up ideas not only among the family, but to other people within their sphere of influence.
Frank, I do not want to come off as an uncaring person, I to was made redundant in July 2012.
Early in my career( Mechanical Engineer) I was lucky enough to work live and work in southern California’s Aerospace industry. I still remember when the solar panels, used on some of the early satellites achived a one amp output, Eureka!! Today my shop and other buildings are off grid. I have built my own tracking system.
I look forward to more of your insights and information.
Best regards;
Larry Isaacs
I am glad enough that you and your family went thru all that for you to have come up with the Power4Patriots program. I like the idea of creating our own power – electricity and heat – and getting “off the grid’ to a large degree, even selling some excess power back to the ‘grid’ power company. I hope it’s a lot cheaper than I’ve heard of in the past. I live in a retirement community where the ‘Association’ has to improve major improvements in yard and house. Are any of your techniques/projects small and insignificant in the environment so one could do them and people wouldn’t notice them that much. I might be able to get away with doing them without getting approval. But then another tack to take is to educate them about your techniques and maybe they’ll not only allow them inside here, but maybe even educate the community about saving $$ and sponsoring events to show people what can be done. Not that many people here – a retirement community – will be interested in doing their own work. Some, but probably not many.
Thanks.
Frank Can’t wait to get started. The back of my house faces south and slopes away. Been thinking of about doing something to generate electricity but can’t see spending the amount equal to a new luxury car to do it. I already do the greenhouse, garden, woodstove thing so hopefully this can only complement what I feel everyone who is able should be doing. Oh. those who can’t the rest of us should help anyway we can.
hi frank my name is joe ard I am I am a small steel fabricator . I now were you been I went from having three empleyes and running my shop 7 days a week . to working under my carport and by my self just trying to make enof money to pay the light bell and keep a little food in the frig my wife lost her 35ooo a year job and hade to take a 18000 a year job . but god is good and me my wife and 4 children are in good helth . look forward to hear back
I totally understand where you are coming from. That is why I ordered your books and am getting started on liberating myself of the GRID. I bought a small house, with an acre of land in the middle of nowhere, just the way I like it, and just bought a greenhouse. This way I can grow my own veggies over winter as well. I truly believe we have to be able to rely on ourselves, because from what I am seeing right now, we sure can’t rely on others. Thank you for your efforts, it makes ours easier.
Frank:
My husband and I are both retired. I am his caregiver 24/7. He has alzheimers. Life is not what we planned but we are making do. We are cutting back and learning to live with less. I ordered your program and will share it with family. We raise our own beef and pork plus garden. We have our wood stove and it has been a lifesaver when weather leaves us without power and we are the end on the line. I look forward to be government free.
End of the trail
Oregon
Have similar experiences but live in AZ so easier to live weather wise. Have lived an one acre of land, finally got my manufactured home completely paid for and i am raising vegetables and medicinal herbs. Converted a 2 car garage into a shop and started my own home based business, music instruments for exterior playgrounds. doing OK with it. This summer / fall will try canning some of my garden stuff. I am also building Quail traps as they are very abundent here and a good meat source. I would like to raise chickens and rabbits, but the HOA stops that kind of enterprise.
Used to live in Nashville, great little city. Know the Pancake house well.
I bought into your program as living in AZ it is foolish to not be into solar power and i sincerely hope it is a solution to the high prices solar companies want for their products as to use them, one does not really save very much money.
Hang in there and thanks for the energy to promote this lifestyle.
GL
I am a Human Resource Manager and believe me when we have to let someone go it is never pleasant. it is the hardest part of my job. I am quiting my job and it is not because I am old enough to retire I am years away from retirement but it has to be done to save my health after all of these years of stress. I encourage anyone who has the will to step out in Faith, yes if you hear the calling then you had better go. We purchased a little slice of Heaven and our intent is to grow a vegetable garden, get off the grid as quickly as possible and live happily ever after.
Thank you Frank for your help in our endeavor
Sincerely, Kansas bound
Hi Frank, WOW! I have almost an identical story to tell you. On January 27th of 2012, my husband was called to the Human Resources office at 10:00 and was let go for he same B. S. reason they gave you. He had worked at his job for 21 years and had been there longer than all of the other co-workers in his department. To top it off, he was left with 4 days of Health Insurance and the SOB’s told him they would ot release his retirement until December 31st (today)! They are now telling him he hs to wait until March 31st of 2013 before he can have his money he worked so hard for for 21 years.
I will now tell you a little bit about myself. I am the mother of two wonderful young men. They are 23 and 29 years old. They were both born with Duchenne Muscular Dystrophy, which is a terminal disease, unless MDA finds a cure. Our oldest son has been ventilator dependent since he was14. Our youngest son is confined to a wheelchair. He also will be ventilator dependent in the near future if a cure is not found. I became a nurse, so I could give them the best possible care at home. I have been employed as my oldest son’s nurse since 2001 and my youngest son since 2010. Let me tell you that both of these young man have a positive attitude, a great sense of humor. They have the ability to touch everyone they meet in a poitive way.
I am sure you can understand the anxiety our family has experience because of the job loss.
We require a back-up generator during a power outage, to operate they’re medical equipment. We can only afford a small gas powered generator, so we have to prioritize which equipment is most essential, as we are unable to generate enough power to run everything. This is what attracted to the Power 4 Patriots websiite. We hop we can become as self suffcient as you and your family.
Good stuff! I have been in the construction business for 40 years and I know how tough it can be. I would like to talk to you about a counter rotating wind turbine and generator that we were awarded a patent in November of this year. It may be a good DIY project, more power in lower wind speeds!
Hi Frank
I’m a 35 year veteran carpenter and 25 years as a contractor, so I know well what you mean about doing with less. The last few years with more government control and regulations on the small businessman, it’s ridiculous. They just keep on hammering on us, and claim it’s an attempt to control (Big Business), and not us. Well we all know that that was a flat out lie! I have sacrificed more each year just to try to keep a paycheck in my employee’s pocket. So I am greatly excited to get your Power 4 Patriots stuff so I can start a new beginning with less government control in my life. And any small Businessman out there knows exactly what I’m talking about. And frankly it’s time we all stand on our own feet, and tell all those (Greedy, selfish Power Companies to go to Hell, and stay there).
Ditto – the same thing happened to me 3 yrs ago. Thanks,
Thanks Frank for your story, I do know what you mean about saving and not buying things that you don’t need or things you can do with out, in 2010 i went to the dr and found out that i have leukemia and i was going to be put on chemo to help me out but not cure me the disease i have is not cureable and it will take i life some day. I was put on long term disabilty for awhile and have since had to take early retirement and i am not getting the money that i use to. I have had to cut back alot on things. I got your book on building a wind mill and stuff i am not sure if i am able to build it and hook it up, but i am going to try my best. I do have a garden every year to help out and i have always enjoyed it. I do wish you and your family the best. I would like to ask you one thing that been on my mind alot, if you are the only one that has electricity and food in your neighborhood if somthing happen how can you keep them from coming and taking what you have and leaving you with nothing .If you keep telling everyone what you have would it not be better not telling everyone so they don’t come and hurt you all and you can stay safe. It seems like even if you do have food and electricity,seeds, water, ect ect, you would need to keep it in a safe place or you would need to black out your windows and not say anything to any one , I am not saying to be a jerk or anything i am just saying you will need to keep and use what you have for your own family to stay alive, and how can you do that if every one can see what you have and are doing. How can you have what you have and keep it if something bad happened. If you could I would like you to answer me.Thanks a lot.
hi Frank,
Sorry you had to go through all that bulls… uh bad stuff. Enjoyed the videos & docs, really got me thinking. You’ve already figured this out, but I’m going to say it anyway: The way to succeed at this stuff is not so much technology, but relentless self-determinism (the most American of all philosophies: rugged individualism), so those folks who complain & expect all this stuff to work with no effort & for a next to nothing cost need to consider what I just said.
I’m retired after working with industrial control systems for ~40 years, so I tend to be very pragmatic.The thing that seems grossly obvious to me is that for alternative energy to work, the standard for house wiring needs to be a 24vdc bus (in addition to the 110/220vac power needed for heating/cooling during the transition). Moving to a dc system means no inverters, no transformer bricks for computers, televisions, LED lighting, etc. This also means it’s safe & simple to work on for the average homeowner . There also needs to be a standard size energy pod (mounted on a 4 x 6 concrete slab) used in every installation. This would allow a quick change for any failed assembly & new technologies would be designed for & installed in standard-size slots.
This needs to be done by a consortium of green energy companies (don’t expect politicians to make this happen (they are bullshitters, not builders)). Now once a de facto standard has gained acceptance, government agencies will step in to set legal standards & (of course) take credit.
In the area where I live electricity is fairly cheap, so wind power (as currently available) looks like a 20+ year payback with solar somewhat less. The quickest payback for my area would be to use an external wood burner that sends hot water to a heat exchanger (~$140) that installs in the plenum of an existing furnace (I know, wood burning ain’t exactly green). Now, if someone came up with inexpensive modular solar furnaces to heat the water, then it’s a green technology.
Anyhow, thanks for the Power4Patriots stuff, you gave me enough ideas to get started.
Been there done that. 17 years with the USAF got hurt(have had a total of 11 back surgeries) and was told don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out (Charlotte Air National Guard) I only had 3 more weekends of drill remaining and I would have retired. My only and main concern right now is I am on social security disability and VA disability, if the government ceases to exist so does my monthly income. But I know I will find a way to make ends meet. I have a little under 4 acres of land to do many things with if needed and I have never been one for giving up, that is not how I was raised. This is one reason I am looking into your program so I can get some independence from the electric company. No matter how far I turn down the thermostat the bill never seems to get lower.
Hi, to everyone else in the same boat. We were doing fine, even after our daughter lost her job and then her home (to Countrywide, who bought her mortgage and then wouldn’t accept
any payments) in 2009 and she and our grandson, who is now 15, moved back home. She got unemployment for a while, and she gets child support, which isn’t enough by far. We live in central Alabama, and on April 27, 2011, three supercells hit Alabama on the same day. The scariest sentence in any language is, “We’re from the government and we are here to help you.” When FEMA shows up, just bend over and get it over with. I am working on a power source that should provide most of the energy that people
and industry use, and Frank’s ideas and creations will be an excellent compliment to it. Due to legal issues, it probably won’t be available until 2014. In the meanwhile, we now have
lots of sun and wind, and we are building a lake and may use it for hydro power. My husband is going to retire in August, 2013, and then he will have time to work in his shop and make his
dreams realities. He won the Alabama Inventor’s contest one time and came in third another time. He is very creative, so he will be in on it too. For a long time, I couldn’t look out the windows, and when I went
outside, I had to keep my eyes just ahead of where I was walking, because I couldn’t bear the loss of my forest. Only last week, at the end of 2012, our lake filled up (though it still needs to be dug out and widened, and I could see, for the first time, that there is hope to maked our place beautiful, in a different way. We’ve been planting trees from the Arbor Day foundation, and when we get the lake finished and the Agriculture department stocks it with fish, then we will let
the Forestry commission come in and plant some trees. My heart goes out to all of you who are struggling. Try not to give up hope. As we used to say in the late ’60’s and the ’70’s, “Keep the faith, baby!”
Hello Mr. Bates I am retired after the hatchet man gave it to me also a couple of times of no fault of my own so I know how you must have felt because i have been there also. I am a person that can make just about anything work out of nothing( ha ha) so to speak. I can fix things that are worn just about out and make them work again, I was raised on a farm in the 40s and 50s so we had to mak things do with what we could get hold of. I thank you for the info. and look forward to getting over to Tennessee to see you and your hook up if that is possible. I don’t know a lot about electricity , wattage, voltage, and amperage but my son does and i plan on getting him involved with the project.Thanks for helping everyone get off the grid and become self sufficent we don’t need the Goverment hand outs all that does is make us lazy and worthless.
Hello Frank and family,
Thanks for sharing your experience. This is exactly what our family is working with and that’s to be self-reliant.
The Weiss Family Grains is currently building a small business that ships many kinds of organic grains and the best steel grain mills (made in the USA) to any location, world wide and any quantity. Perhaps another time we can speak more about what we have been doing to help supply a variety of grains at wholesale prices.
But now, I’m following your lead regarding alternative power, etc.
Your the kind of family that is re-building America by making things happen now.
Look forward hearing from you again.
Sincerely,
Dan Weiss
Frank,
As with everyone else, thank you for sharing your personal story. Very sad how so many good hardworking Americans are being cast aside from the very companies they helped stay in business! I’m a one person mortgage broker and struggle daily with all the government regulations trying to shut down the little guy. My husband lost his job a year and half ago (28 yr police officer due to wrongful termination and discrimination)…yes, we are fighting it throug the legal channels which isn’t cheap but somebody has to fight for justice!! We are anxious to recieve and implement your Power4Patriots ideas to becomd more self reliant where possible. We have a small garden and now a green house to get a head start of planting. Glad you have a loving and supportive spouse also and have come out stronger for your experiences. Thanks again for your research and for sharing!
God Bless You and this Country!! We need His help to survive the greed and corruption of massive government and corporate spending.
Mr. Bates, I think I can relate to no job. I just loss/closed my business of seven and a half years with one main reason: (although this isn’t the only one reason, there are several) over overregulated government interference. They make reqirements and systems that don’t work and then when you seek answers you can’t get answers and then it’s your fault for not knowing. I have invested in the power4patriots energy system and am getting for information to get off the grid in all aspects of my life. Government works when it works for all the people – not when the people work for the government. I am praying daily that hopefully one day soon I can come out on the other side a better person.
Hi Frank,
Thanks for sharing and yes I think you are a very lucky man. While my circumstances are not quite as dire as yours I am grateful for people like you who are will to help people like me and let them know they are not alone. Thanks so much for all you are doing and remember for every good thing you do it will come back to you threefold.
Frank,
Thanks for sharing your story. I have been in your shoes more than once and I know how it feels. I am really hoping your system will get me more independent from the power company. We really could use the financial break and the peace of mind to know we are able to provide for our own power. I havent got my kit yet but am hoping that it will be easy to use and teach me all I need to know to get building. We dont have lots of extra money to put into any expensive equiptment and would really appreciate any websites you trust for parts and solar cells. E bay can be hit or miss on quality and I would hate to buy a bunch of useless cells or equiptment.
Please keep telling us the best and cheapest places and parts to go with.
Thank you ahead of time,
Tim
It’s never an easy road and it can all be gone in a flash. One major medical challenge or loss of income can changes a families course forever. No one is immune. I’m glad things are going well and your on a better path towards total independence. Seems like our Government is banking on our reliancy and acumulated debt to cripple our position. It’s been happening for decades. Thanks for sharing your story and secrects that everyone can utilize in becoming more self reliant. Our voices need to be heard. I greatly appreciate you.
Your story sounds good but I dont know how your system will work for me.
I am 77 years old, so I cant climb up on the roof to install such a system, we live in town so I cant put in a wind gemerator and what about the permits required to even begin to do suchna system?
actually your pitch seems like a lot of hoopla and the only one getting any thing out of it is your bank account.
Frank:
I just got my notice from the hatchet man two weeks ago (second time in three years this has happened to me). They told me the exact same thing (poor economy . . . have to cut back . . . subcontractors first to be laid off, etc.). The first time this happened to me I lost my home and good credit rating. Now . . . ? I won’t loose my home again because I found an old double wide three years ago, put it on some property that I own outright, and have been fixing it up ever since. This is part of the reason I purchased your program. I HAVE TO BECOME TOTALLY SELF RELIANT . . . I’m 58 and too old to be seriously competitive in the job market these days (they can pick up a younger guy for a lot less money). Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks for sharing your story . . . it gives a guy hope.
Frank, I am a service disabled vet and do have a small plumbing business, but I am gradually losing more and more business to minorities The government sees ethnic diversity as a priority over veterans which shows me the true intent of how the government seeks political approval from the weak to under mind the strong. We must force ourselves to be less dependent on any form of control that takes our personal rights away. Keep up the good work. Remember Patriots are not followers they are leaders.
I myself have been in the same spot you were in three times so far in my life, and hope never to be there again. At one point after being hurt on the job then laid off , I was unsure if I would ever walk on two legs again much less be able to work. But I persevered and fought through it. I have always lived very frugle , I hunt and kill and process 40% of our own meat we raise our own garden , we are very independent in our lives , being raised in the country makes you that way. Closest store or even a doctor is miles away. But I like being independent and this just seemed just one more way to become a little more independent.
I think you should take pics of you garden, solar panels and such then send them to the old boss and thank you for getting me out of that rut and on my way to a much better life!
waiting for my fireplace insert because a wood fire is one way to beat the power company if it wasn’t for EPA! i wish we could get rid of EPA especially here in CA. Glad you have survived ok.
I was a nurse and fortunately had more hours than I really wanted. I retired at age 65 – 12 years ago and have watched that profession change drastically with cutbacks in every department.
Two years ago at Christmas I had one child or child’s spouse out of work and I have 4 children! I could hardly believe it was happening. It was a bleak time. Some were professionals. I saved two cars, but couldn’t save a house. That couple doesn’t have any children, but my daughter was the one that made the money. I prayed like I never have before. By March all but one had returned to work, one in a pat-time capacity. My son was still working, but his part-time job never came back and he is in landscaping, and has a wife that can’t work because of health issues. They have been on the brink of losing their home a couple of times. I can’t save the world, but am going to share your plan for electricity with them. This is doable and would make a great birthday or Christmas present this coming year. Thank you for sharing this and God Bless you. Delores
Frank, your confession sounds parallel to my own experence. Glad you and your family have made it to the other side.
Society is too reliant on money. Frank, what you are doing is reducing your reliance on it. Bartering is the next step, a bunch of carrots for a dozen eggs. The funny thing is that this is what existed before money was invented. Governments don’t like you being paid in carrots or eggs.
When you build something yourself rather than paying for it such as your free electricity, heating and hot water systems you don’t need so much money any more because your build price is so much lower than a bought system.
Frank your experience is a great example of this 3 line phrase that I picked up.
Everything happens for a reason
Everything leads to something better
Always assume this.
cheers
Robert
Down-sizing is tough and against what “society” has taught us our whole life.
I’ve had to do it – also, but not with a family (very hard).
When my tumble downwards began, my wife and her kids bailed out.
I’m now “making it” OK. Living in a camper-trailer and working as a handy-man
with a small 4cyl pickup truck.
I appreciate your “confession” . I’m not that strong yet – to put my story out there.
Best of luck. We think alike.
Cherish your wife and family – EVERY DAY
Dennis
I know i little about set back myself….I don’t have a job at the present time….I have been permently laid off from several jobs in my life and I am pushing 60… NO insurane but Jesus, no retirement .I .have no cue about the future. other than what I think the bible is predicting …..but my wife has a 12.00hr job..we have some chickens , 4 goats, and a good many acres of land.but no money to work it…. althought a good , good, god who will help us as we try to help ourself and others if possible…….thanks for your confession. frank….hope everyone does well in the POWER 4 PATRiots group…….be bless you ya’ll……………………wailen
Frank,
I live in Miami, Fl. The house I live in is the house my parents bought before I was born and the one I grew up in. The water in my house has Always been heated by solar power. It is the easiest system for heating water. Just let the sun shine. If the sun doesn’t shine for a day, we have a back up booster that in about 10 minutes heats up all the water you need for showering, etc. Though my house is powered by electricity, I know we save a lot of money and energy because of our solar powered water heater.
Thanks for your story, we all have one.
Frank;
Your story sounds like so many around the country. We already have a vegetable garden, have had one for several years. It does help out and taste so much better than store bought. Getting your information on solar and wind power will help us out so much, it seems like our electric bill just keeps going up and up and up. I can’t wait to get off the roller coaster and be more self sufficient.
Hello Frank, I know it’s tough out there. Right now I am employed by a resort making snow for the ski area at night and the pay isn’t that great but you have to do what you have to do. Plerase stay in touch and thank you for the opportunity to become energy independent. Best regards. David
Hello Frank,
I am glad that you are in a better place. But as we both know is that you are doing well with your technics. I will try (slowly ) to test out these methods. I have started my own business. I sell log signs. Yes im making some extra money which is how i was able to purchase the information provided. I live in an area of wine country. Well to get to the point, if this works for me i will share with my local and close friends. I will thank you now. Will update the further long i get.
Signed Walter( Atwoodlogsigns)
hey Frank
our story and yours are not dissimilar…
except my wife retired prior to heart valve replacement surgery and has since completed a building/construction Tafe course.
i will retire as part of a ‘new year’ wish list and we will both move to a more relaxed lifestyle away from the rat race in Sydney.
our modest unit is on the market and will go someway to repay the mortgage.
we have investment properties out west and will live in one and do repairs/renovate the other and decide our future much as you did….vege garden, chooks, etc.
i’m grateful for your thoughts. it does a lot to dispel some anxieties i’ve held during discussions with my misses.
stay in touch Frank
cheers
Rick
Ohhhhh and chickens too. Can’t forget the eggs and meat. My tribe is twelve miles from my 50 acres in Michigan. And Canada is 13 miles away from our property. I’m excited to be self sufficient and hopefully be able to live off the grid soon!!!!!
OMLG Frank, I never ever thought that the behavior you told about could happen today but I have had the same thing happen to my two adult daughters age 35 and 39. Both 12 year General Managers with Buffalo Wild Wings. Both had two children; but the eldest was 5 months pregnant and had purchased a house for the three of them. Both divorced, and no help from deadbeat dads. My husband and I had two houses on 35 acres and grandma B just passed away. Our eldest daughter moved into the house granny B lived in and after her child was born, she went to school. The second daughter with a 4 and 6 yo girl and boy had her knee replaced because of extreme damage to knee when she was 16 yo and had been hit by a car. The eldest daughter went to school to become a master colorist and stylist for Paul Mitchell. She is doing good but making 1/4 what she was as a GM. The second daughter got her notice two days after being released from rehabilitation. She is in school to become a nurse (registered) and has a year and a half to finish. We had to support all of them and my husband had to use almost all our retirement. So I totally understand what your talking about. We are planning to become very self reliant and grow a garden, rabbits and couple heads of cattle. We have a fabulous artesian well on our property in Michigan. Lands all paid for so we will pay as we go and owe no one!!! I am so excited to get going. I thank you for the tools to help us, we are ready and sick of this government. God bless you. Larry and Shannon
Dear Frank,
Thanks for your honesty. I will keep this as short and sweet AS POSSIBLE for now. I will be 52 in January 2013 and have been in the trade I chose since the summer of 1977. I am a mechanical contractor. Without going into great detail my knowledge base has expanded from my small appliance repair and installation days in 1977 while going to trade school to me becoming an independent contractor in 1996 with increased ability in most of the trades connected with the commercial HVACR field to include the electrical trade. I chose to become an independent contractor because sometime after noting that the guy I went to work for in 1989 felt comfortable enough quite often to leave his business in my hands to go on 2 week vacations to Hawaii and other places. Needless to say by the time I went to work for him I was already a well known and reputable service tech in this area so after 5 1/2 years of working for him I went into business for myself. I did this with my last two pay checks from him and a loan on a used 1989 F-150. I did all of this with the intention of making more money and putting in less time than I had to put in while working for someone else but boy was that a mistake because within 2 years I was working 7 days a week and that Hawaii vacation was further from my grasp than ever before and when I decided it was time to hire someone what I discovered was a nightmare in itself but that story is for later conversation. Anyhow the short and long of this is to let you know that I will know in a very short time if what your selling is legit. My hopes are that it is legitimate and that you are unlike most of corporate America and you are an ethical business man.
Sincerely,
John A. Grieco, II
JAG SERVICE COMPANY
Frank, your story is one that I can relate to. After 21 years of working for one company with not a
mark against my record was told four of our group would have to ether take a early retirement with
some severance or take a chance and be let go anyway with none. I being 60 years old could not take the chance, so I took the package even though I wanted to work till full retirement at 66 and
was perfectly able to do my job. I knew even though I was leaving there was more work than I could handle there so why were they letting me leave. After I got over the shock that I was retired and could not live as I wanted I tried getting work in my field to no avail even though I was well qualified.Finally I decided to do contract work as self employed. I found a company I could sub contract under and my business is improving and I am happy to do it. Funny thing is that some of my work is working for the company I retired from. The experience has changed me for the better. I am now using my spare time preparing for retirement by cutting costs.
Frank, I use to work for some as well. Then I decided to do my own thing so what happened to you could not happen to me. That actually is the American dream. I am good at what I do,and I like it , so I excel in my life. Making ends meet is always a challenge. Everytime you think you got it, someone or something moves the ends. That is life…
Get some chix! Most people watch ABC-TV, NBC-TV, but I watch CKN-TV (chicken-TV) which is much better entertainment than the networks. I love my chickens and they provide me with fun and food (eggs, that is).
My package from you arrived in the mail today. Tomorrow I will begin to learn as much as I can from it and put it to good use.
I am a widow on a fixed, retired teacher income (no raise in over 12 years in Texas, not even a cost-of-living raise!). I do as much as possible by recycling. Can you offer any info or recommendations about using recycled materials to accomplish energy self-sufficiency?
Hi Frank! Thank you also from me for sharing your story. Sounds rather familiar, as I also have in the past been laid off or taking on more one job to make a decent living. Recently I recieved one of your wonderful seed vaults, quite excitedly. My 5 brothers & I were raised on a medium sized farm in southern Minnesota from the early 50’s to the middle 80’s. We always had a large garden plus some fruit trees. Our late mother canned alot. Permit me if you will to say that big corporations & big government really needs to be slapped hard. The American are in sore need of relief in more than one way. Anyway, thanks again for all your information.
Thank you sharing your common story. As we head down the road of “government for the corporations” (vs. “the people”) we do have to become proactive regarding our survival safety
AND standing up for our democratic principles. When greed and power by the Elite are more important than the welfare of our citizens, we are in big trouble. I will be giving my husband your program for his birthday next week.
My story sounds much like yours minus the loving spouse and the savings. All I had was handicapped child and one not and no choice but to survive. It was a terrible struggle but eventually we moved out of the city. My son joined the Army which left me with only one child to support. Then I took another hit when I was injured in an accident and became disabled. Eventually my disability came through. Fortunately we had been living spare for so long that we could make it on that, barely. Then medicine caught up with my daughter. Her conditions were diagnosed and she received disability. I’m now 68 with limited physical ability. I’ve use most of my resources providing her with the tools to take care of herself after I’m dead. My life expectancy is less than 10 years. I would love to put up solar and wind. But she won’t be able to maintain it. We are using the bonus materials you sent to be as enegy efficient as possible. Our favorite saying is, “Never have so few done so much with so little.” That’s us. You’ve been a big help. To bad I didn’t find you sooner.
Frank, To be Frank with you,(no pun intended0I saw the light at the end of the tunnelback before9-11.I knew the way things were going that,If I didnt buy some property and build a house,when the sh#@%hit the fan,I didnt want to be in the city.I had just returned from a 18yr.exscertion inthe carribean.I was living on a sailboat off shore andhad a wind generator to charge my batteries.I hooked a converter and was able to blend a few concocktions of delight.I never felt freer in my life.No phone bill no electric bill noyard to cut.Now that im landlocked on 5 acres out in the boonies things got a lot different.I wasn’t in to paying hundreds of dollers for electric,so I started to cut back.now with the way i live,I get by on less than 75 a month.And thats way to much.Im really happy to come across your web site and am eager to get started. anyway,thank you frank
I know what you went threw I am going threw my own fight the difference is that mine is with the government. I am a lung cancer patient at the VA living on $1000, a month and fighting for the last Four years for my service connect and they just drag there feet I was suppose to die two years ago they have deeper pockets and are more patient than I
I got your power for patriots for my brother he is also a disabled veteran and he is wanting to go solar and I hope he can get out from under big powers thumb
I don’t “feel ya” but i do understand what you went through because I had family that was starting to have the same problems and sadly …. i started seeing it in my mom! So I just turned 20 and it’s kinda hard to get through things because I’m inexperienced but I feel and have faith that I have more support than I think I do. And by the positive mood I was able to get a hold of non-modified corn from a farmer that got his seeds from ancestors that got there seeds from local indians that lived on the land. As I look back i can’t help but to think, If i wasn’t willing to go with my friend on that small road trip (decided to be a party pooper) I would have never been able to start my collection of trust worthy seeds for a healthy, strong, and reliable garden! Small stuff such as that has taught me a Great lesson! Grattitude;
‘Gratitude unlocks the fullness of life. It turns what we have into enough and more. It turns denial in acceptance, chaos into order, confussion into clarity. It can turn a meal into a feast, a house into a home, and a stranger into a friend. Gratitude makes sense of our past, brings peace for our future and creates a vision for tomorrow’ (Qoute by very wise man)
And gratitude is one of MANY!!! I’m proud to hear you are doing great and was willing to even share when normally people would brag! I believe with your help and incouragement of helping others is one of Many too!! Thank you! Keep it real!!
(if your interested, look up Irish prayers. They are the start of what inspired me to a better life!)
Frank,
I read your confession and related to it and sypathized with you, since I have been through the same exact thing on more than one ocassion. I am looking forward to reading your information and getting started with something to help the situation, especially since the empty suit in the White House is bound and determined to totally destroy the American way of life. I have a daughter who happens to live in Nashville and since we visit her once or twice a year, maybe the next time we are in Nashville we could meet and have a cup of coffee and talk.
Sincerely
Al Cariglino
I very much feel your hardship there! I don’t have a family of my own but I had wound up on dissabilaty, I wanted to do the things U are educating on beforehand and now wish I had put forth more effort while I had a good job! My family or at least the degenerates think I’m rich and mooch all they can from me, gonna have to learn to lock them out of my survival compound, LOL! Anyway, I am slowly trying to go in your direction before we go belly up. There is no insentive for the doctors to help people with potential heal and get back to work they just keep pushing pills and say go home and die! I hope and pray I can make it out the other side as you have, I am sure giving it a try! Myother keeps wanting me to go on Opera and ask for help but Im not good at asking and don’t expect to do all this for myself, I wish to do like you and help those close and loyal to be able to get by without struggling. God will choose my path but the bible tells us God helps those that help themselves. And he didn’t mead helping ones self to others property, etc, LOL. I thank you for putting this out there!
Hi frank, been there and have gone thru what you did about three times.. I now have my own painting and repair business. I took a whole three days off from my regular job and my business since nov. 2011…..the reason I took you up on your offer was to gain a little more freedom for the blood sucking entergy providers and BIG BROTHER govt.I would like to get off the grid altogether but not necessarly this year—-at least I hope it isn’t forced upon me, for at least another year–if things don’t go to hell before then….I hope to get your book and study it and decide on my plan then start it and not stop until I am truly free of this money on my back…..I live in Baton Rouge ,La.—-in da swamp-lands its hot here nearly 10 months out of da year. My wife has MS which means she can’t take da heat anymore… The past three hurricanes we had, it cost me more to run the genarator(gas) then to run regular power—our outages last 10-14 days, which is hard on the wife……The last MS attack happened a week before Thanksgiving, in which she was given six I.V. bags of steriods, one aday for six days, then took pills for another week to ween her poor body off the steriods…….so as you can see I have the best motivation to complete my task for some independance……I can relate to your story and it is believable , because I went thru it myself several times….In fact I still have not recovered from it but some how I managed to raise and educate three girls and working on raising the last girl(yepper I had foiur girls) one is a nurse, second a housewife, the third a forenic scientist—works for coroner office as investigator——the last of the Mohicans—is 14yrs going on 24———so Hell if I can do it anybody can…It hasn’t been easy, but nothing worth having is. I just set my goals and if you get in my way——–hehehhe shame on you because you not going to stop me, ya might slow me down a bit, but if ya still i8n my way , I will run over you,,,,,not AROUND YA. Well it is after 9 o’clock friday night just got back in town from job and worn slap out. Its to bved for me—-later my brother———may the wind always be at your back…..I’m half bred——-half irish and half registered coon-ass.
Frank/Michelle/Family
This was obviously a family effort with everyone doing their share. My hats off to all of you! If only there were more of you in this land which is not getting better each day. Our money says “In God We Trust” which just doesn’t seem to fit our land any more. I thank God daily that we still have left what we do have. Who knows how long it will last. With efforts like you put- forth, maybe there is some glimmer of a rainbow. Thanks for sharing.
WAY TO GO FRANK, I know it must have been hard, I went through very ruff time when Dana and i just started out with no savings and a little boy who couldn’t under stand why I couldn’t even by him a 25 cent pack of gum. But with faith in GOD and each other we also made it, worked like crazy to get out of that place and then 17 years ago started my own business also. We to try to only depend on our self gardening, fishing, hunting. I have been working on her for about a year on the chicken thing but still no chickens here. I have seed stored for many years to come, finding you on the net and ordering the power4 patriots package was a GOD thing (don’t even have the stuff yet) And i been talking about solar for at lease 10 years now. And thanks to you I’ll get it done this year.
Thanks Frank hug the family for me!
Frank United States has a real problem we have program GOD, THE LORD JESUS out of our live. We have become so materalistic, WE forgot about GOD. II Chronicles 7:14 If my people, who are call by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face turn from their wicked ways,then will then I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land, we must earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto saints.We must follow ( ACTs 2:38 ). We do have not a political problem,non unemploy problem,non a gas problem,non food problem,non money problem,non a sugar problem,non water problem,non a salt problem,non a coffee problem, But what we have is a Sin Problem. GOD, said rigtheousness exalt a nation, and sin will bring a nation down that mean sin will destroy this nation. Thank you so much for your solar system, I know it is going to help me so much, may GOD continue to bless you in JESUS name.
Thank You,Troy
Glad your family come out the other side doing well. I was a construction supervisor for a large concrete co. In 2ooo my wife had an brain anyuisum, so i quit my $90,000 a year job and came home. my wife recovered well. I got my residentual and commercial contractor lic, and went to work. doing ok now.We have 10 ac. of land, pond stocked with blue gill, catfish, and large mouth bass, and a 180′ x 180′ garden we can and freeze all the vegies we eat. also have chickens for eggs and meat. LIFE is better when it is lived togeather, and simpler.
Wow! So many times I hear stories of people loosing everything, but give up by giving into handouts and settling for what they can get from the government. Your story is inspiring, and it reminds me of my father. He worked all his life, and raised us 11 children with no help from the government. There were times where he was laid off work, but he worked side jobs painting houses, etc. to make ends meet. We went without a lot. And my mother sewed our clothes. So I can relate a lot to your story. God bless you and your family:)!
Hi Frank,
I appereciate your story about the uncertain life we all face. Your right about times getting worse
our nation is being strangled by big oil, big medicen, and drug companys, preadatory government agencies, the food industries and on and on with scams to remove America from the
Once Greatest World Power to a third world country. I bought your program to learn more about
solor and wind energy. I like water wheels and wind power so I wish to learn more. If you wish to
add to your survival list, you may try looking into alternative medicen, as this is a field that has been coming more into the light because of the incompetent medical practices of our established medicen fields. There is plenty of good information on the internet, however be warned just because it’s printed does not mean it’s true, do a little research. Hugh
Hi frank,The same thing happened to 140 of us that worked for Lazy Days RV in seffner, Florida. We were all told to pack up our tools and leave.No warning and 140 families got the shock of their life.well,I had to go on unemployment,and I got every penny I could while starting my own business because I didn’t want that to ever happen to me again..I’m doing great now selling tools.
Have a nice day
John P Gooch Sr
Frank thank you for sharing your story i am a 70 soon to be 71 widow of 6 years and female don’t kinow if i can do this work but i am going to try i hjave a mobile home and i tooki in two roommates after hurricane katrina one didn’t work due toher circumstances and after 2 yeares of my supporting her she got her ss disabiolity she takes care of me and has for the past 6 years the other one cleans my home and lost her job of 10 years she stays free except for cloeaning which is no small fete any way i am truly blessed to have these two peoploe in my life. can a 71 year old female with not two omany smarts do this or am i barking up a tree with no cat there
When you said “confession”, you scared me. I’m praying you have a successful, thriving business now. But, If you don’t, I understand.
I’m sorry you lost your job.
Wow. Good for you and your wife for taking that much initiative. Your story is inspiring to me.
Frank,
You did exactly what you should have done. Been there, done that, got the T-shirt AND the hat.
W/o getting into my story about what the Federal Govt did to me after a 20-year militrary and 13-year govt career: I saw “thank God” and “Lord knows” in your short testimony, but these are common conversational expressions and are no indicators of where you stand with the Lord Jesus Christ.
Again, good moves, but the real move which will carry any of us through with protection, wisdom, discernment, provision, courage and great faith is: recieving Jesus Christ NOW NOW NOW and not someday (whenever that is, probably too late). We will all stand before Him very very soon, if my 30-year study of prophesy is any indicator, and no amount of ‘preparation’ outside of the one spiritual bottom-line requirement will matter. John 3:16
I am prepared, and am doing what I can to stay out of the ‘Mark’ system as long as possible, and am determined not to take it unto death. So, I appreciate your tips, and will use them to advantage.
Hope you will sit down on the edge of your bed, look up, and take my tips as well. Time is very short. Rev. Joe A.
Keep up the good work
Hi Frank,
I appreciate your struggles. Here’s my story:
I finally retired from aerospace after working in that industry for over 35 years – 21 years with one company, 4 with another and 13 years for the U.S. Government. Not a bad life, but very hard as a single mother of 2 daughters – grown and on their own now. Living in California as a retiree isn’t easy. Seems like everyone in the local and federal governments always have their hands out for more money – and I’m barely making it. Would love to move back to Arizona (where it’s legal to defend yourself) but the housing market sucks, so I would have to sacrifice my home in the CA mountains in order to move.
I’m hoping that as a single 60+ female, I have the mental acuity to figure out all the information I received from your company. I used to be pretty bright and quick, but have slowed down a bit these days.
I’ll let you know whether I’m successful or not with becoming power independent. Since I live in a gated community, I’m not sure the “Association” will allow this independence. Well, hell, as an Irishman and ex-Navy – I still love a good fight and now have the time to take them on.
Regards,
Connie
Your first 7 paragraphs are identical to my life. Completely IDENTICAL!!!
Frank, Sounds like the Lord has got you redirected into the purpose he created you for. Same scenario with my job. Had sold my house, business, etc. – now what! Then he sent us south where we have been ministering for 20 years. We had built a passive solar home in western NY and it worked. Moved south where the sun is shining and now it is time to get back to solar. Thank You and may He continue to bless you and yours,
Mel
Frank, I’m 68 years old still able to work ,have to work because Ins. Taxas, Utilities. an so on. I’m in to being self sufficent. I have read your program and getting started on a wind Turbine. Have already went to Wood Heat, My plan is to be off the Grid in 6 months. I know your system will work for me..thanks. I’m Fired up.
Thanks for sharing this Frank. and i hear all you say Brother. you’re lucky to have such an understanding family . believe me i do know what its like to do without the “nice stuff” for about the last 4 to 5 years now. different story but same results. that’s why I was so glad to find your website and placed my orders. yeah i saw a few other sites, but also saw some reports on a few so i didnt go to those. I am looking forward to taking care of becoming less dependent on others and am really looking forward to receiving all of the info I ordered from you. I have a good friend of my son’s who is like my own kid, and have told him about what you are shipping to me. got my order shipment notice yesterday, so shouldnt be long. we’re Fla east coast presently, but am seriously considering a move to the Smokeys. am going to help my buddy install some “independence on his place. i’m in a rental presently and will have to remain so for probably another year. Am going to fab your systems and prepare for transit, buy a piece of ground and build my “last home”” using “clear cut ” for the cabin, and go back into the slope with it as well. I’m a retired design/builder and am anxious to bbuild your systems into my home and cut the cord.
Thanks for the info, and the inspiration. i have always been self-reliant and am a true survivor. But having the comfort of elec, and heat off the grid ,will be a lot nicer than just weathering the seasons au natural. Those are great luxuries. Mother nature will provide the rest.
Have been telling my friends about your website and hope they will take advantage of your help as well.
Many, many thanks again, Frank…you’re doing a great thing for all of us.
sincerely, Cal Moore
I had the same thing happen to me. Wow and I started my business and on the road to self reliant. I am happier now and have a lot less money. I am grateful for this program in my strive to control my future. Thanks for your help!
Im 821/2 years old, widowed, and I want to see what your info looks like. I might try to get my oldest grandson interested in startings his own business. He has great observational talent, but is afflicted with AD/HA or whatever they call it. He also has keen memory.
Thanks for gettin ME interested.
“Mike”—-My lifelong nickname.
I’m hoping that I have done the right thing by trusting in your project. Now all I have to do is to convince someone else to look at it and help.
Greetings from Lawrence, Kansas.
I was fortunate not to loose my job with Honeywell Int. I worked for 30+ years and wanted to be layed off. I volunteered and was with full benefits. I have always wanted to make my own solor panel. so I signed up for your Info. package. I hope I won’t be disappointed. I am now successfully retired and have time to invest in my own solor energy.
I have not yet received my books,c.d.’s, etc. so will be glad when i can review your material.
Thanks. Mike Cater
Hi Frank, I have a similar job experience, when I was laid off from my job. I also have a grandson that graduated with an engineering degree and is unable to find a job, so he’s going to be the one to help me put my system together and maybe it will lead to a position of self employment for him. I’m hopeful! Thanks for sharing.! I definitely want to get out from under my high electric bills.!
Great story Frank. Learning to make it on our own is absolutely key for what I am pretty sure is coming to our once great society. Keep up the good works.
Max
Our utilities department is city owned. Our Mayor & council members asked them to show their financial statements. No reply from Utilities Department. More requests. No response…but now the Utilities Department lawyer-up & is bringing suit against the Mayor!!!
This is the city Nikolai Tesla experimented with his brilliant ideas on electric currents & wanted the people to have it without cost.
Then Henry Ford, Thomas Alva Edison & Rockefeller swiped his knowledge & made it into a
capitalist sucking machine—
We have been had…
I am willing to look at your system. It looks like something I might want to try.
Frank;
Thank you for sharing your story. I am looking forward to receiving your book and tape so my Son can start the process of reducing our dependance on Duke Power compay. Electrice Bills are going up drastically.
Thank you.
Vivian
Frank,
Thanks for sharing your story. I have been growing vegetable gardens for 40 years, heat our hot water and cook our food with help from the sun. I got that down. Need to think about using the sun we have here in Costa Rica to make some electricity.
…Dennis
Frank,
I can really relate with your story as I to experienced the shock of being “let go” soon after starting my career. Although it was very unpleasant and it took me 6 months to find another job, it taught me some good lessons and I realized that I had not failed, but my employer had failed me. In any case, I am looking forward to getting the Power 4 Patriots package and getting started in becoming more independent. Thanks for leading the way and making it easier for others to attain more self-reliance. Best Regards.
Frank, you been reading my mail!! I want that for my family as well. Thank you for sharing that.We see this kind of story every time we look around us.
I appreciated your committment to do what you have to rise above it all.
Warmest regards.
Ray Cowan
Visiting Daughter in Nashville this weekend. love that towm
I have spent the past 27 years in prison, totally reliant on others for EVERYTHING and always subject to the whim and whimsy of corrupt officials withing government and without.
I understand your previous predicament, and living now on a farm and growing our food, raising sheep and poultry for the obvious benefits, I can only say that you and people like you are what makes this world great.
Thank you and may God bless you.
You don’t have to rely on government but on God thru Chist who shed his blood to set us free
Thanks for sharing your story Frank. I’m trying to do just that, taking one step at a time getting closer to having more freedom for my family and I.
Mr.Bates
I am retired and my buget is very limited so i will be slow getting started on the projects
so be easy with me getting started i will start with small ones first i have not recived my c ds
and manual at this time looking foward to getting started
thanks
Don
Thank you for sharing your story. I ffor one know how it feels to be broke all the time. Im looking forward to getting my own power for my home. With your help I feel like I can do it now.
Thanks again,
Richard
Frank,
I received my copy of Power4Patriots yesterday and I was able to sit down and view the entire CD this afternoon. The information was very good. The step-by-step process detailing how to build my own solar panel was especially helpful. However, there were a couple of steps that were not explained as well as I had hoped. Namely, the Bus Lines and Junction Box portions of the solar panel training were “hurried”. I feel confident in all other areas of constructing a solar panel with these 2 exceptions. Is it possible to get better informatin on connecting the Bus Lines and Junction Box?
Thanks very much.
Clay Hattabaugh
Yes. I realized that after production. You can find that information in much slower detail on the technical FAQ and the YouTube Channel
Frank; thanks for sharing your story and for your honesty. I’m looking forward to this adventure of becoming energy independent. Maybe this will be the key to our country’s breaking free from foreign dependence on energy sources. Thanks again.
Wes
My wife Judy and I were also doing well until she was let go by the company she worked for after 8 plus years. She was 2/3rds of our household income. Bankruptcy was unavoidable. We lost the house, camper and truck. It was very humbling to say the least. Luckily I have my job with the gov’t. But I am not sure that is secure either. There has got to be a better way to this life.
Frank,
Thank you for sharing your testimony. In reading your testimony and that of many of the others that have commented I find kindred that have walked the same path as me. I am glad that you and your family were able to make the changes that have brought you this new life. When I was right sized out I took what work I could find and while much less financially rewarding I was able to secure a position that provided a much greater level of fulfillment. That lasted until the body gave out and I ended up retired. As with so many others I am trying to simplify and downsize. Hopefully your program will help me to stretch my fixed income a little further. Thank you for gathering this information together for us. Marc Brown
Frank,
Thank you for sharing your personal testimony. By God’s grace, my wife and I are still employed and able to provide for our family. In my 22 years as a father, I had never worried about employment prior to 2008. Since 2008, I realize how quickly things can change. I don’t pretend to know the future, but I am convinced that America is headed for some very difficult times….and very soon. I don’t know how much I will be able to prepare for my family’s well-being before it’s too late, but I intend to do all I can from now until that time arrives. I just received your Power4Patriots CD-ROM in the mail this afternoon. I am excited to get a little free time to view it and begin planning. Please continue sending emails with tips and advice. Like so many others, I have been “spoiled” far too long and I am ready to be my own man! My family needs me and I simply cannot let them down! They mean the world to me as I’m sure your family does to you as well. God Bless you and your family and God help America! Thank you,
Clay Hattabaugh
Dear Frank and Family,
Thank you for your testimony. I am afraid that many of us have gone down the similar road that you have. My wife and I have wanted to be self reliant in our life as well, and with Gods help we have done quite well. I lost my job in 2001 and started my own business in 2002 and did quite well until the new change government took over and within 6 months almost destroyed my very successful business. I am still going though at the age of 67. We continue to look for ways to lighten the load and are now looking into the solar and wind ideas that you made available to us.
I can’t wait for my hard copy to get here.
Thanks very much,
Chuck Black
Totally agree that you are better off now than when you relied on others. I left a lucrative profession many years ago so I could become a carpenter. The self reliance continues to grow even now (I’m 62yrs). I can’t wait to get started on the solar heater. Tried wind power but it’s tough in the treed area where we live.
Thank you for sharing your story.
I know where you are coming from as I have been there and done that. I am a mechanic and do some side work but I an a Vietnam vet and am getting V,A. disability and S.S.. I was raising 4 kids and lost jobs so I know what you are talking about. Nothing scarier than trying to figure out what to do.
Ron Musk
Frank,
Unfortunately, I’ve been that route a couple of times. I was not confident enough to define my own path. With the help of my own good women, we road the storm. I find myself back to the same corporate lifestyle and accepting the indignet role of a temp/contract worker to the same complany I gave 16 years to. No benefits outside a paycheck and 6 paid holidays and even more easy to cast aside.
If insanity really is repeating the same mistake, and expecting a different result, I must be ready for the assilum!
Good for you and more power to you.
Thank you for sharing your experience and your knowledge. There are some pretty scary things going on with the executive branch of our government that the people are unaware of because of the media. I hope and pray our Congress and the courts are aware of the problem and will be able to stop it. Hopefully they can and the public will finally learn the threat we face. It’s definitely a wake up call to become more self sufficient.
Thank you so much Mr. Bates for your reply. The following stuff happened to us 9 years ago when my 41 year old son (not Married) was in an accident that left him with a stroke and severe brain damage. There was no help for him from any church or government service what so ever so my husband and I had to buckle under and sell our house, stuff and have learned to live within our means. No frills here. Like you all I am really sick of government controls and we do NOT live in a democratic society. We are really trying to live on our own and so far I rather enjoy this and am proud of it. I very much take it seriously on all the reading stuff about how to live outside the government and slowly we are making it. Altho it wasn,t easy and sometimes still is not easy,and friends?? sometimes think we are nuts, I don’t care. I really do thank you for your support and information you send my way. God bless you for all you do.
Thank you for the inspiration and for sharing
I meant further decrease my energy bills.
Frank, I started working with energy saving when I got sick and couldn’t run my small business
any longer. I put up a plastic box over a base ment window. 8ft. by 5ft Ht.by 2.5 deep. double plastic one sheet out one in. Put in a cooling thermastat and fan going in the basement window.
I set it for 75degrees. The lean to was stapled to the house. I put it up in Oct. and when the temp hit 75 the fan came on and blew hot air into the house. I refined it for 3 years. My gas budget went from $166 a month to $48 dollars a month. The gas company came out every month looking at my meter, then put in a new one, then by invitation came in and lit my pilot lights. He hit every room in the basement trying to figure out how I dropped the gas bill so much. Finally in March I was looking out my patio door and there stood a woman with a clip board looking at my gas meter with a perplexed look. I sllide open the door and asked her if she would like to know how I dropped my natural gas uasage. Her eyes lit up and she said: “YES.” So I walked her down the drive way to the lean to and explained how it worked. She just shook her head. We have been trying to figure out what you did all winter and here it is so simple. She just shook her head and walked back to her truck and left. Riddle solved for them. I also use a HHO generator in my car. My mileage went from 22.5 Avg city/hiway to 28 city hiway. The system really shines on the highway giving me 34-38 mpg. I added neutra which breaks down the gas to vaporize better and got 42 to 46 mpg. Now this is with a 3.8 ltr. engine in a buick park avenue. The increase in mileage has been consistent over the last 3 years. We”ve saved a bundle with that increased gas mileage. I also run 9amps of solar panels with 4, 1000 amp batteries with a 400 watt convertor at the batteries. Very basic setup but it runs the lights we use most every night. When we have a black out it will easily run all the lights 5 with 13 w bulbs, plus a laptop and 19″ tv with dvd player and a fan. Then if will run a couple fans all night. I want it to do more. All my simple systems are real simple beginner stuff but they have paid for themselves many times over. Wanted to see what you guy had to offer that could help me increase my energy bills.
Kia Ora Frank,
Thanks for sharing. Hopefully your info benefits my family as much as it has yours.
Donovan
My story is similar,wife & I on food stamps/welfare a few months.Long ago.Being 73 yrs. old,she’s 82 ,social security is all our income ( as long as that lasts?)If those checks stop we’re
in serious trouble ,enough to eat for a month or so (Preppers)But utilities will cut off when
not paid promptly?Rent of lot ??We only own the home & can’t be moved ? not economy.
Cost too much .No place FREE to go ?/
Why worry ,be happy ??GOD will provide ,if HE takes you to it _He will bring you thru it^^
As HE did for you & yours>>>
If you do Not have your own business; You will Never be able to walk away from someone else’s idea of what You need.
They control you. Your needs are Not theirs.
Even if they care; the bottom line is money.
When you own your business you own your time.
Something money can not buy.
Frank, my wife abd I emigrated to the USA from England in 1981. I had a Masters Degree in Engineering, had worked in 17 different countries and spoke four languages. When the energy business collapsed in the early 80’s, I was in Houston, my boss called me in after our staff had gone from 477 down to 11 and told me that he was sorry but he would have to let me go. I had been with the company for 15 years, mostly based in Europe. I received two weeks notice, that was it. I got another position after about 5 months out of work, savings go quick when there is no income only regular bills. Stayed in the new position for three years, until 1984 when I “saw the light”; left to become independent. Still working at full independence, love you Newsletter and ideas. Thank you.
Dear Frank,
Thanks for sending your background “Confession”. It explains your motivation for starting Power 4 Patriots, and quite frankly validates Power4Patriots as a means for working people to be more self reliant. I’ll be 60 next month, and have done consulting work out of my home for 5 yrears. I have a great partner in a second business, and I’m developing new technology to recycle and conserve water in all environments. I feel very satisfied in my “calling” and I’m having the time of my life! Thanks for your example and leadership in Power4Patriots! Dwight Hughes.
I read your “confession”… And I feeled complete: it’s not only me who is not granted.
I thought one thing: if my country has 200.000.000 unhabitants, and 1/3 – 66.000.000 – gave me just a dime, I would be several times millionaire!
Then I gained a new hope – and never more a bad dream!
Yours is a good idea.
Couldn’t I have another?
That’s it!
I am 59 years old and never had any health problems. Worked hard, rally hard all my life.
When I reached a road block my plan was to go to school and get another degree. I have always felt the need to be reliant, but have never found that path. i still work for corporate America and bust my tail everyday.
I always have this internal feeling that everything could come tumbling down and i would be even working harder sending out resumes.
All I can say is I am a chicken.
Franks Bates, I ordered or product for my son as a Christmas present as he is a do-it-yourselfer as much as is possible. I am hoping that your product will be helpful for him on his meager budget. I will not be responding much to your e-mails but am saving them for my son as part of his Christmas present of your product so be patient when I don’t always respond. I will transfer the product and the communication to him when he receives the Christmas present I hope will be all you said it would be. I mailed this information to you before but got no response so am not sure you are much interested as I have not heard a response from indicating that you got my information. Would appreciate you letting me know that you understand that as a 75 year old woman, I am not the person who will be building any solar or wind products. That will be left to my son.
Doris Jorgensen
Doris,
That sounds great. Many people have their family members, or even hired workers make their panels for them. I hope your son is pleased with his gift.
Hi! Frank.
After reading your heartfelt letter, I feel so sorry for what happened to you and your family
I am glad that God gave you the wisdom to find a way through your very difficult time in life.
Growing your own food and raising animals and birds for meat and eggs, is not only healthy but also very satisfying. We lived on a small organic farm for 46 years,from marriage to retirement, raising 4 children.We know the good feeling it gives someone to be able to work in the soil,(Gods good green Earth).
We have a small lot,with a little house in the town of Blumenort,Manitoba Canada. The
house has no gable ends,it is all roof at both ends,facing north and south.According to the Video there would not be enough room for the solar panels on the south end of the house. Most nights there is no wind for the wind turbines to work.I am also 72 years of age. What I am really trying to say is I want to cancel my 2 orders please. Thank You. The orders have not arrived yet. I will just refuse them at the Post Office and return them,Trusting that you will send me a refund in due time. Please reply if this is the best way to return the parcel or parcels.
Yours Truly ! Norman Beckman
Norman,
I forwarded your comment on to our customer service department. You should receive a refund by just refusing delivery, but it will take a while for our shipping department to decide that they are going to stop trying to get it to you. (they would try a couple of times). Customer service can get your money to you faster and double check that we are not trying to re-send your order.
I hope we can afford your system. That remains to be seen.I would hope that god had a Hand in this.
you don’t mention whether the Lord was involved in any of your decisions. think how much you could “increase” if you and your family would. this is not critical!!!!!!!!!!!!! I often forget to involve God in all my decisions.
While I avoid being involved with facebook, twitter, etc.(The more you do, the more your tracked by?)
I believe that we “true” patriots must share and do all we can to prepare for a most uncertain future.
I was run over as a pedestrian a few years ago and was told I have nerve damage and could no longer work which put a real crimp in my retirement plans and funds. I therefore know what Frank is talking about. Do all you can in all facets to prepare for the worst as it can strike at any time. We’ll be ok because we have planned and worked to protect ourselves and I feel this can be one more way we can continue our efforts.
I know what you have gone thruogh. About the same thing happened to me and my wife. I worked for the 5th largest utility company in the US. One Friday we all went home, laughing and talking about some jobs that had to be done the following week.
Well, Monday came, the same guys meet at the gate ready for work.That gate that we walked thru for years was now looked. We had no job, no reason and no time of when this lock out would end. This company was PG&E, or Pacific Gas and Electric.
The company had decide we were making to much money. I dont know if you know much about line construction, but it is a job of very physical and dangers work. I am now a electrician working for myself, my wife has retired and we are getting by like the rest of the world that has become tired of big companies and bad government.
I believe we all should be thankful for several issues,From God Almighty who has given the power to think and work to make a better world. I feel that because of this we that are capable should take a step back and ask, what can we do for our kids,and espcially for our grand kids.
So, please lets all work to make our country rock solid again. May God Bless alll believers and help the ones that dont believe to understand we are in a spiril heading the wrong way.
Thanks Gary
I am very interested in your product, have read and study some about it and understand the concept of alternate means of our need to make changes in the way things need to change.
Thanks Gary
Dear Frank, I really hope your confession is sincere and not guilt on profits you’ve made. In fact if 20,000 people buy your program at $27.99 that’s a profit of $559,800.00 Yeah I could easily be “OFF THE GRID” with that kind of money. Your program is do-able but if you factor in the labor and costs of materials, for some it’s not that simple. Although most people have full time jobs kids/kids in college and some have two jobs. So if what your selling is so good, then why didn’t you just sell the entire package for one price? If I seem a little skeptical it’s because I have been burned before with offers like this in the past. I hope that your not upset and maybe I just need more solid reassurance that this product is plausible for though’s financially stretched and physically stretched and the end of a day. Sincerely, Lance-
Hi Frank,
Maybe Aryan Rand had the right idea of getting people together of the same mindset. So the internet is a good starting place today. There is a book out recently on making a solar food dehydrator. I have some ideas I could share with you. In the 1970’s I was involved in the manufacture and erection of all fiberglass houses. I entered it in an article to architects to “Submit ideas for simple habitats for the human squalor throughout the world”. I you are interested in the overwhelming input we received I would be eager to talk to you. Patriots shrug.
James
james, God will not let man down, man lets himself down by not having faith in God.
My llife has been one big miracle since 1991 ,when I started seeking him and letting him teach me in his word.
Yes, miracle after miracle. Joy unspeakable! That is what man can have when they press into the creator of heaven and earth. But, for those who turn their backs on him , He will turn his face from them and they will know not his blessings.
Perhaps its time to reconsider. Just dare to ask him to reveal himself to you, if he’s real. But you have to have the right heart. Go ahead you have nothing to loose ,salvation to gain.
Judgment is coming and already is in the earth and america. Don’t believe me just look around. It is no coincidence, it is the hand of God. I know… He told me. He loves his people and he wants them to turn to him, but they have not… now even more terrible catastrophies will come untill many are consumed and a remnant look up and say… blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.
Thankyou very much Mr.Bates for your wisdom to help us prepare.
Mr. Bates: Frank if I may
Yours is a success story. Always nice to hear one. Thanks for the encouragement of never being put in shoes like yours.
I am nearly at the retirement time in my life.(4 yrs hopefully).I personally maynever use your system for myself but my children may. I have not researched any cost factors for your system but hopefully with the information you have supplied I will be able to figure it out.
It does appear tho, that there will be a considerable expense for becoming totally self relient.
Personally I may just tinker with the system as hobby.
I have watched all 10 of the videos you offered. They show how to do the system and it seems do able for the DIYer.
Sincerely
Nils C Bernhus
how bout nitrogen supplemented or ran cars?
Thanks for sharing your story. I’m concerned about our nation. I think services are going to continue to get worse. That is why I purchased your plans to become independent of the power grids.
I was on vacation when I purchased your plans. Thus, I haven’t gotten started on reading and making preparation to build our solar panel.
God will let you down. What you need is a attitute adjustment. And, a study of the power of positive thinking
When we lean on ourselves we fall. When we lean on God The Almighty we can not fail. When God made Adam and Eve life was to be great and simple. Make mad passionate love-replinish the earth, tend to the garden, take care of the animals and rest cause I have finished all the work. In the fall of man came knowledge of good and evil. You just read the good!!!! The evil is every thing else… cell phones, watch the t.v. for an hour, sickness, mourning, pain, suffering, economic collapse, natural disasters. The list never ends. Thank God For Jesus!!!!! When it’s all said and done Doesnt the simple sound good… Simplify life, Trust in God, love your spouse,love your children and train them up in the way they sould go, tend to the animals and the garden, eat good food, and rest.
God Bless!!!!!!
Permantantly disabled, so im starting a buisness from home allready built a green house to grow food for my family and neighbors. wanting chickens and rabbits and I ordered power for patriots. and everyone thinks im crazy but who cares I wont be hungry God told us to be like the ant diligent and prepared.
I am currently working for a fatcat and I am doing quite well. However, I am a government contractor and if you watch the news, you can see that Obama has those types of jobs on the chopping block. I could lose my job just like you did at any time. And I realize it.
That is why I am preparing now for the possibility of a much more bleak financial future. The wife and I are raising fish and a garden in the summer. We are trying to stockpile a years worth of food for hard times and we are starting our own .com business soon. Furthermore we actually make some money in our spare time by making some products, trading and so on.
I think that the economy is going to get much worse before it gets better. People who are prepared in advance are positioning themselves to survive and do it much more comfortably than those that are not.
Been living like that for over 35 years and we have done it not only for ourselves, but for the Earth. Tread lightly and leave a small footprint. I think recycling should be mandatory!
I totally agree, we all have to be more independents of the system, because the system is created to keep people down and in the dark, governments do not work for the people they work for big corperations, and they try to brainwash us everyday, tring to sell us stuff we don’t need.
I intend to spread the word about solar power any anything else that will help people get away from supportting big money grabing corperations that are tring to rule the world and control how we live…Power to the people…..lets squash these fat cats together….YA!
I agree totally. I am a stay home mother and I as well feel we all need to be slf reliant and to work together as neighbors and communities to help one another survive. Things in the world will be getting worse so we need to act now.
I am at the bottom . Taking care of my parents until their passing, Unable to keep up . But God knows my problems and my heart. I ordered your program for a reason. Thank you and your in my prayers. Beck
Thanks for sharing your story Frank. I have a similar story about being let go from a large corporation in NC. It changed my way of thinking about what is important and what I should take control of in my family’s life, rather than assume someone else is looking out for us, they’re not really, so here we are. Thanks for your ideas about power generation. I intend on making independence a way of life.
My wife and I we drive a tractor trailer for a living, We all travel as a family, me the wife and or two boys age 10 & 12. We home school them in the truck and we do 90% of our cooking in the truck. We save a lot of money doing this. My brother watches our house and he helps pay some of the bill. We stay out about 30 days at a time and go home for about 4 days.
I am looking forward to your info, can’t wait to get started. We my be out here on the truck but I can still get things done.
Thanks for sharing your story Frank. Getting by with less is a good thing. My wife and I have been debt free since about 1995 mainly because we accelerated mortage payments and always tried to be “thrifty” on everything. Now less than 10 years away from retirement and maybe just a year or two away from early retirement I am realizing that retirement savings are never going to be enough to provide for a full retirement. The government is so in debt that they will come up with a way to get all the money put back for retirement, so I need to be able to work towards the goal of total energy, food, and water independence. Since the government taxes property there may never be an assurance of otal independence but we have to try. I come from a family of innovators. My father (passed away 10 years ago) and suddenly found himself unemployed as a sales rep for cable and TV reception products in his late 50s. He became a million-aire starting his own business with my step-mom ten years later with some simple innovations. Already, after going through your videos it seems that there could be even more innovations and opportunities in this energy area.
I show people how to grow fish and produce,sustainable energy and long term CSA for food and gasification and so onwe should talk sometime 417-818-2173 [email protected]
573-857-3223
Frank “I hear your words” as my 4 yr old Grandson would say!
I am an Aircraft mechanic with an IA. 57 yr old devorced women. Was in the industry 20 yrs. put myself through school at 35. I have had three jobs and each one I did well BUT I would always do the right thing. I was not afraid to stand up for the men who worked for me even though it would put me closer to the door. I didn’t get the positions because I was shy or a push over. If you hire me for the job then let me do it!
I bought a house 4 yrs ago today and had my Dad move in with me so I could and with the help of an Aid take care of him. I lost my last job 09-11-2009. Had not been in the house a yr. Dad got worse and I knew he only had a short time here so I put off going back to work full time to be with him. He passed on 12-12-2011.
You saved me from doing this Power4Patriots myself. With my back ground I have been looking into this myself.
I am planing to plant a garden next summer and start canning/preserving the food I grow.
I live in an area that is not zoned for farm animals, otherwise I would have a few chickens running around:)But I do plan to go to the town and see what can be done to change the zoning laws.
Looking forward to getting all the info I ordered from you and getting started.
I have decided to try to be off the “grid” by 2014.
Will keep you posted.
Warmly,
Ann
I am not very savy and I hope I will be able to understand the directions on how to build solar panals because I want to be off the grid for electricity and heat. thank you so much
Dear Frank. Thanks for the advice. 4 years ago I was a millionair. Since the abomination took over Iv watched my specialized trucking company fall to ruin and my wealth has been redistributed just like that sucker said he wanted to do. I started from nothing and built 5 successfull businesses.But after this one Im done.I have lost it all including my family. So my dog and my horses and I bought a tiny cabin in northern Idaho,Thats were Ill spend the rest of my days.Im not chaseing the dollar anymore since I believe it will soon be worthless anyway.Thanks for showing me in your detailed lessons how to generate my own power.My cabin has no power but with your plans I hope to change that.I may be calling or emailing you soon though when I begin to build the turbines and the solar panels,Im sure Ill run into a problem or two.Thanks again for makeing your system affordable.Ill let you know how it turns out when Im all done.
I certainly appreciate what you guys have encountered. I had an experience somewhat similar but not as difficult.
Looking forward to receiving the “off the grid video” Understand there is back log but that is ok.
With the elections complete, we all need to pay attention andlook forward.
Thanks for a great job.
Frank, I too know all about the “Hatchet Man”. Ours in the pharmaceutical business was called the “Cobra”. After many, many successful, years in sales and sales management, the “thing” that major pharmaceutical companies came up with to get rid of experienced people over the age of 55, was some trumped up charge of a violation of the “Business Ethics model” for the corporation. That way, the corp. could avoid most if not all law suits. I know of a female sales manager, that was on a business trip and broke a heel on a pair of expensive shoes. She used a business credit card to purchase a pair of shoes. She, personally, paid Am. Ex. and did not enter this receipt on the expense acct. She (lady over 55) was terminated for inappropiate use of a business credit card that violated the Business ethics code. Another sales manager, again over 55, was terminated for being less than honest, (not dishonest-didn’t steal, cheat, or embezzle), just allowed a “white lie” to protect a salesperson’s reputation. Terminated for a violation of business ethics. I could go on, with about 18 more examples, but will not. These are just ways corporate America and human resource experts have found a legal way to terminate employees over the age of 55 and eliminate salaried six figure wage earners and hire cheaper, in- experienced replacements. Careers, lives, and families have been destroyed. One sales manager,of 32 years service, after being terminated, went to a storage unit with a pistol and ended his life. How stoic of the Corp. to send flowers to the funeral of the terminated (and very successful) previous employee! I truely believe that we all must live within our means and get off the grid–either the power grid or the dependency on Corp. America. Adjust your lifestyle, now, to do more with less. Use the extra cash, incentives, bonuses to prep for the future. It is important for everyone, to at least, think and pre-plan- – – “What would happen if I had no job tomorrow? What if there was no clean water supply? What if there was no corporate electricity tomorrow? What if there was no fuel or trucks, to deliver food to the grocery stores?” Our forefathers and foremothers, knew how to plant a garden. They knew how to dry, can, process fruits, vegetables,
and game. They knew how to make gunpowder and soap. They could tan and sew their own clothes. No! No! I do not recommend that we return to those days but many of these lost skills can help us today, to get off the corporations grid and the power grid-_- – just in case you get the termination package before the gold watch and golden parachute to retirement- – – -or unemployment.
Thank you for the letter. I appriciate your story I’ve already gone through a lot more than that. In 2003 our house burnt down and then in 2004 on mothers day my son had a home invasion and was killed. That made me realize stuff means nothing. The following year in 05 my old man was knocked off a roof and broke his hip and cruched 3 discs in his lower back! After being laid up for 9 months he attempted to go back to work and realized he would never be the same. He still struggled on anyway. We continued on with insurance lists ect… Of course the insurance company screwed us and we didnt get enough to rebuild. That took forever and 12/06 I tripped and fell crunching my whole right side of my body. I started making jewelry to make $ . Wrong choice to make the bottom fell out and no one is buying jewelry! We’re still in litigation for his hip which turns out to be a DePue and is being recalled! We will get a settlement soon I hope and plan to go else where and buy a cheaper house and sell off our acres here. Up in the hills somewhere is where we will be. That’s why I ordered your power package. We’re done with BS! Yours ever- Colleen
Haven’t received my books yet, but expect shipment tomorrow. I am 79. single woman, but I have two sons who are contractors and build and also do excavation work. I hope they will be interested in this, but have not mentioned it to them yet. I have an empty barn and also another building where they store and work sometimes. Thought this might be a great way to get heat for these.
Your story was great, and I know just what you have been thru. I raised my two sons and 1 daughter for most of their lives and we went thru some pretty hard times with me as sole supporter, but we managed to survive and learned how to grow stronger from our experiences. Thought this might be a good Xmas present for them.
thanks for your’ life. I am lucky, never, never, ever worked for another man in my 75 years of living. So what that does, is make me the best employer any one of my workers will tell u. also, makes me a liberal since I feel for everyone of my workers and I give them all they can have, and still keep the resturant, bar, retail store, gas station, campgrounds, wood cutting operation, and few more, open and in good financial shape. I believe anger and hate and blame only hurt u and yours, and will take years off your healthy life. never give anyone that power.
Dear Mr. Bates,
My Real home is in the philippines, My wife Ann is there with realitives and ourdog.
I hope to go Solar with our hotwater useage. Maybe I could use some string lights also.
Your Information will be a Great Help.
Many Thanks, Norman L Sargent
I BOUGHT A DISK FOR POWER . IT HAS A PANEL THAT MAKE POWER FOR BATTERYS AND THE BATTERYS COST MONEY. AND I HAVE TO BUY A CONVERTER TO CHANGE FROM 12 VOLT TO 110. SO LOTS OF LUCK. YOU MAKE MONEY BY SELLING THE DISKS. VINCE
I CAN NOT BELIEVE YOU COULD PUT IN A SOLAR UNITED WITH OUT MONEY. BECAUSE I MAKE GOOD MONEY ON RETIRERMENT AND I DO NOT HAVE A JOB BUT I SAVED UP FOR IT BY THE TIME I WAS 44 I WAS INDEPENT I TRYED A SOLAR UNITED COST WAS 15 000 DOLLARS AND IT WOULD TAKE 12 YEARS TO RECOVER, I ALSO WAS THINKING OF MAKING MY OWN. COST WAS ABOUT 5.OOO FOR THE PANELS AND THE CONVERTER WAS ALMOST 3.OOO SO WHAT EVER WAY I WENT IT COST MONEY. A GARDEN I TRYED COST WERE HIGH BE CAUSE OF THE WATER, HOW YOU DID IT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IT TAKE’S MONEY AND THAT I HAVE. THAT IS WHY I STILL HAVE IT BY NOT TAKING CHANGE. SO LA VE. VINCE
Frank,
Bravo for you and your family. With the President re-elected we are in for even worse times -especially in the energy field. Electricity rates will bust anyone’s budget eventually. I don’t know whether I am up to the task of making myself self-sufficient as you have as I am totally unhandy – expect to enlist others to help me.
I am also very excited! I received my power4patriots info and have already gotten started. My budget is very tight being a single mom with one income. I had a tuff time deciding what project to do first ( i plan to do them all). I always think of ways to get around the normal ways
of doing things especially when it comes to shopping for materials and supplies.
The glass was my first issue. I first called the local glass company and for a 4’x4′ tempered glass sheet was $128 plus tax. whoa! already out of budget. so i thought “tempered glass is EVERYWHERE! I went to a “resale” shop or surplus and bought two used patio doors for $30 per door. Each door has two sheets of tempered glass. That’s $15 for a 29″x71″ sheet of tempered glass!!
My son took the panel apart and to our surprise the aluminum framing that’s needed to do this project was already intact, caulked and seamless. THIS IS HUGE!!! So I saved even more money!!
I will encourage anyone doing these projects to think outside of the box when it comes to finding your pricey materials like this. For $15, I now have a 29×71 sheet of glass (make that two sheets) as well as metal frame already constructed and ready to set solar cells and wiring. If a patio door is too big for you to consider, think about the old exterior doors that people replace. I don’t know as of yet if the aluminum frame is used in these doors as in the patio doors, but it would be a cheap piece of glass to start with. These are double paned as well! Happy hunting & think outside of the box!
I live off-grid and energy independence is the ONLY OPTION!!!
THANK YOU FRANK
Very excited about solar and wind oppourtunities. I am a toolmaker and self taught machinist. I wish I would have started many years ago. I hope to immediatly start a stockpile of materials that may be used in fabrication.
Frank,
Thank you for sharing your story. It is unfortunate that in one sense your story is all too common. The difference between you and millions of other people is you decided to work toward making yourself more self reliant and weren’t looking for someone else to bail you out.
I too started a number of companies after having an experience similar to yours. For the past three years my company has developed and patented a radically new wind tubine system that becomes a part of the structure for which it is supplying electrical power. You can view a bit of the concept and system at our web site; http://sepbwt.com if you would like.
I also believe that citizens need to begin educating themselves for survival through self sufficiency. It is all too probable that the skills they need for survival may be needed sooner rather than later. That is why I appreciate your approach and recommendation that people become as independent as possible and not expect someone else will take care of them. It has always been my contention that “nobody can take care of you like you”.
Thank you for what you are doing. I look forward to receiving your materials. — Sincerely
Frank,
Independence will be the only way to survive very soon. One thing that you should stress to people (because some are ill informed i.e the Canadian contributor) is that concentrating on OFF GRID is very important. Some believe that adding solar to thier home while still connected to the power grid is a good thing. What most don’t realize is that there is no “switch” that will allow an on grid assist system to be used in a grid down senario. It’s useless in that situation. It’s just like an illegal “male to male” connection to a generator. In Washington state, both are illegal because someone could get killed. I applaud your determination and willingness to share your knowledge. We have to depend on each other, and not the corporations to get us through the tough times, and they definately haven’t shown up yet, have they?
Please make people understand that solar/grid tied systems are not the way to go.
I could not agree with you more! I am 74, self-supportive and would like to incorporate some of your ideas into my Real Estate business. Other countries are way ahead of us here in the US.
What is wrong with us? We should ave moved away from gasoline, electricity, years ago. When gasoline was 50 cents a gallon, we knew this was going to happen.
When customers want to build new homes, believe me I will be preaching to them about going solar.
Also, older homes should be doing the same. I intend to become more involved in Solar.
Hi Frank,
Hey, I am real interested in recieving your power generating equipment information. My intent is to supplement our grid system power and lower costs and reliance on the grid. This I view as a wiin win for me and the power authority. I do feel however very fortunate and thankful to have the grid power available and appreciate efforts of corporate and government agencies that had the foresight to install them. Rural Canada is well served by the grid and the folks out there on farms and ranches are very very thankful for it.
Sorry to hear all the paranoia and economic trouble down in the states. I dont get the anti establishment angle on it all though.
Anyway not being From the USA I will say no more about your politics except to say that for the most part Canadians are glad your (USA) are our closest neighbors and hope things go better for you all in the future. I guess when things aren’t going well it seems the whole world has it in for you but keep faith in humanity and hope you can always find some good neighbors.
Already lost our jobs. Spent our savings to live with just necessities. Decided to leave Michigan for Montana where we had less combersome regulations. We are in the process of figuring out how to become less dependant on utilities.I do NOT believe the end of the world is imminent and am just interested in more savings to replenish my savings. I am 60 yrs. young and maintain that there is more good than bad in this world.
Frank; Thanks for the honesty. I know family and friends think I am paranoid but I am realistic.The times are frighteningl close to self destruction. The government has control over most of the people in this Nation. Self reliance seems to be the only hope we have for survival. I am aware of what the Bible says about the end times and I believe you have a God given gift to help people to live in the light in a darkened world. God bless you!
Thank you for the advice. I can’t do much right now because we are renting but as soon as our house is finished we will be able to be much more independent. We plan on building our own solar system as the house is built and build a green house with a raised garden. We are to old to do any bending over. That will also allow us to raise crops all year long here in Arizona.
God Bless you, Bob
Hi Frank. Thanks for sharing your story and to your continued success. I would like to know if anyone has taken the power 4 patriots materials and started their own business helping others to become more self reliant with wind or solar power. My package is due here in a couple of days and can’t wait to get started. I too would like to know about the UL comment. Thank you
David,
http://patriotheadquarters.com/blog/do-i-need-a-permit/.
Thanks for your confession, Frank. Your sage advise is much appreciated.
Earlier in these comments, Scott Hill wrote to you saying:
“And you could mention right up front that grid-tied energy systems are generally not allowed without using UL-listed components, so all the stuff about building your own system is mostly useless.”
I would like to know what Scott is referring to here. What exactly are “UL-listed components” and why does he claim the system you are presenting is “mostly useless.”?
Your explanation will be much appreciated, Frank.
Howard,
http://patriotheadquarters.com/blog/do-i-need-a-permit/
Frank, I know exactly what you are saying. You can’t become rich working for someone else, Paul Getty’s words, we can’t become dependent on the big corporations or any foreigner company and we have to buy made in America!. It is a tough road but we have to start now. I will working on the projects on my own energy savings and probably keep helping others like you Frank! I will keep in touch my friend and you can take that to the bank!!!!! Carlos, but my friends called me Carlitos as in Carlitos’ Way.
Thanks for your letter and insight into what led to your inspiration to be more self reliant. I hope to produce my own electricity from your manuals that I bought from you. I have always been interested in this and hope this works. I understand that I can get a full refund if it isn’t something I can afford or just doesn’t work for me. I don’t make a lot of money.
I think that when you “do with less,” you find out what really means the most in your life. I am 59 now and very much “old school.” My Dad kept reminding me to “keep my head above water.” My Mom encouraged me to “stick to my own knitting,” which means to keep focused on what I am doing and not someone else, and don’t make comparisons.
I really do not know you Frank and I am hoping that this will be a good move for me and my wife.
So your big confession is that you’ve been through hard times.
Uh… …ok, I guess. So?
Oh, and your energy materials could do with a lot less political commentary. And you could mention right up front that grid-tied energy systems are generally not allowed without using UL-listed components, so all the stuff about building your own system is mostly useless. Glad I didn’t spend too much on it, good luck with continuing to sell the same information as most other people in this market niche.
We know how you felt they done me the same way.
Frank,
I like you became unemployed as of July3, 2012. I am a Registered Nurse in a small town. Financially I will be ok. It’s is time I can retire. I wasn’t ready to but I may as well. I could drive and hour and work, but I chose not to. I am lucky, I have cut back but I will be fine. I have so many friends and family that have been laid off, lost homes etc.
In this economy I am luckier than most. It is important to learn to be self sufficient nowdays.
Good luck to all. Be Strong.
Pat
Frank,
I really appreciated you taking the time to share your experience with us. My husband had the same experience as you three years ago. We pulled out our little retirement fund and brought a franchise to give personal assistance to the elderly and disabled.
*1st mistake buying a franchise, we worked ourselves to death 7 days a week. after 21/2 years in business we closed it down in May 2012. With both of us working 7 days a week without a break. After everything was paid we had earned $4,000.00 between us for 2011. We were stressed out of our minds. My husband took a job to we could make it!
Our goal is to become as self reliant as possible. That is why we wanted the Power 4 Patroits.
My $25/hr job went overseas back back in 2003. So I completely get it. I’m a single woman. My son is now grown but is back home after getting out of the Navy. I also have my 83 yo mom, who thankfully is still feisty and healthy enough to mow the yard.
You know, the Amish have the right idea. live off the land and off the grid.
My life involved not going to college since the english classes at high school did not include the basics on essays and “what you need to pass”. I had alot of “read this book and tell us what you think”, so I went into the military, 20yrs later, and Bill clinton’s military cuts, I do NOT have a retirement that I can live on. That’s why I have to be a store clerk for Tiger Tote @ $7.75/hr and I don’t know if I can keep this job.
Newly retired (my husband) and I do some part-time work. I’m trying to work on a home job but I’m not really a businesswoman. My husband is also a pastor and doing some writing too. I’m finding more difficulty with my hands and my eyes as I age, Bummer! I’m trying to work an entrepreneurship since the gov’t has deregulated some electricity and gas, and seeking to make a bit of headway that way. Thanks for all YOU do.
I like your story and your attitude. I am a licensed electrician and I was interested in solar in the late 1990’s in LA. I went to a seminar at Siemens and got certified to install their solar panels, only to discover that A. they didn’t have the inventory I needed to produce the product B. They were extremely expensive and C. perhaps the biggest. They are owned by British Petroleum. How weird is that. I like your product and am looking forward to starting to produce my own. Sincerely, Jim Ring
Have been through the same thing, more than once. Last time was as a sales manager, let go, hired back as a salesman. Worked straight commission, back in the 70’s (Chevrolet) lowest check
for a week, $47, highest $5400. The dealer made three times my commission, I quit, went back to teaching (marketing, economics, and entrepreneurship. Taught for 40 years, Missouri has a great
teacher retirement system, but I did not think enough security. Bought several laundries, a dry
cleaners, set up arcades, got into rebuilding lightly damaged autos. Retired @ 62 in 2006, but worked part time till I could also get SS and Medicare. Built some vacation homes in Black Hills
in South Dakota, they are managed, but I also rent them my self. Have bought and sold small
real-estate deals. Why,–the market could go South after this election and I do not want to be
under someone else for my supper. Want to control my own destiny. I had already bought three 45 watt solar panels and am looking for wind turbine, so was interested in learning what you could teach me about wind and solar. Not as quick as I used to be, but never quit reading and learning. Will keep in touch. CER
Frank I havee walk in your shoes for the last five years wife was injured in auto accident and out of work for 5 years.I work in the construction industry and as you know it took a dump, we have down sized and struggled as everyone else has,and when i though there was light at the end of the tunnel when my wife was able to return to work at American Airline well we know what happened there bankrupt, Now she has to work more hours for the same pay. We grow are on veggies and i raise chickens, i sell some we eat some and great eggs, I’m in the process of putting together some cash to get started on this off the grid with the electric have read alot of your letters and taken your advice i don’t want to depend on the power company for electricity
Thank You & god bless
Self reliance allows one to sleep better at night. Am now at the sell car I no longer need as I did daily (have gone from 40000 to less than 4000/yr in milage but where I am the road taxes are 1500 a year to be in the drive way. People tell me how much I need it or might need it in the future but doing the math I can try to get a no tax fantastic milage smaller car or go for no car and try to rent everyonce in a while.But living in a back water with no dependable public transport to where i need to go reality is I need a car.
I remember being told I was an expert but the firm I worked for nolonger had experts on hte payroll, they hired them in to consult. But they knew nothing about childcare or lack of instant care if I was supposed to be on call. Reliance on onesself provides a different kind of stress and a different kind of success. Keep up the good work. Remember you are not alone.
Frank and Michelle.
I am a farmer and simply trying to get my chicken coop off the grid as I live in Saskatchewan and the winters are too cold for people and animals. Your confessions actually bother me… as I have no interest.
Your info is good. Keep up the info… just stop with the… omg I need to overcome evil with my chicken coop.
I do not feel on any level like you are reaching out to me with this rhetoric…. please stop….Just send the info and keep your personal beliefs to yourself.
Thank you for the great info about getting off the grid as my coop so needs it. Sorry if I am not one of the folks that buy into the rest of your plan. It irritates me…
Jocelynkrose
I knew your history 3 times, Frank
Just tell me how many Uk customers you have and if they imported the parts or found them locally.
I have doubts we can actually run this gear independently nor resource the parts at any economy. Your price per panel is not much different from normal installers.
Thanks.
Frank,
That is an awesome story and I wish you all the continued success that you will create for yourself.
A little about me: I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormon) and self reliance is very high on our list, that is one of the things that drew me to your program.
All the best,
Cal McGrath
Thanks Frank. It’s happening across Ameroca … 23+ million unemployed … over 300,000+ new unemployment insurance claims each week since 2008! It happened to me twice in the last ten years; before I worked 25 years for one company until it was sold going from private to public. God bless us all, another Frank
Frank,
Thanks for sharing some of your experiences. I have also discovered by reading it, that you post a blog here with other articles I’ll be interested in following up on later. I would suspect that most (if not all) of those who invested in Power4Patriots have similar stories. I too have experienced the plight of layoffs, no jobs to be had (esp. those of us at “retirement age”), legal and/or medical circumstances, etc. that led us to re-evaluate our lives and means of survival. I consider myself fortunate as a vet that I’ve experienced hardships in the past that prompted me to seek preparation for the future I predict will unfold. I know this “plan” was always on my mind, but it was your inspiration to “package and market” a practical blueprint for this essential project that prompted me to really start doing something about it – now. My wife and I have just relocated to a more rural area in the South, to a home with land and plenty of sunshine and wind year-round. After we complete our “settling-in”, I fully intend to research and start some of the projects I got from your company. Your “piece of advice” is sound. I second your recommendations and am personally implementing them in all due haste. Good to hear from you and keep up the emails and blogging. ~ Jeff
Frank,
After serving 25 years in the USAF in aircraft maintenance and hoping to serve our country 5 more, my retirement is soon coming. My wife and I purchased and paid off through years a small track of land in East Texas. Our plans is to learn as much as we can from you and power4patriots to build a clean energy producing/consuming home for us to spend the rest of our years. Thank you for providing us your experiences with solar/wind power and educating/empowering us with a survival plan after my military career.
Sincerely,
Tony Bickerdike
Hi Frank, Thanks for the insite. It’s nice to read a story that has a positive outcome. Who ever thought that you could become a pioneer in this age. Keep up the great work. Mike K.
Great story, My wife lost her job. For a year and 3 LONG weeks. You find your self being more reliabe on your self. You have to change. And make that big step. and we did. Now, I have buit my wind turbine and I am on my way to Solar Power. Looking forward on being MORE PREPARED. Thanks to you.
Frank,
My wife (Michelle) and I lost everything we owned in May 2009. We had our own business for 37 years. We were contractors and real estate investors. Since then we have learned how to adjust from a gross income of several millions per year to 12,000.00 – $18,000.0 per year. I feel your pain.
I think it is wonderful what you are doing. I also would like to help in streamlining what you have started in your business. I am retired now on Social Scurity of which I never thought would be such a blessing. I am grateful for SS but, I am far from over my business venture visions.
If you read all the comments from this article you will see that there are many people like you who are ready to make changes. There have been many days since I recieved my package that I wondered if you would bring a little more personal touch to some of the videos and manuels by introducing coaches to help your customers.
Personally I don’t understand some of the ordering parts process, getting a little more input in certain questions, etc.. I know you are just one man or have a few others helping but not everyone will follow through and finish their projects unless there is opportunity for personal coaching. I will be more than happy to be better trained so I can coach others at my own expense. What you have developed thus far could actually start the process of Rebuilding Middle Income Americans.
Please feel free to contact me if there may be some opportunity available in helping others get off the grid.
Rick
Hi Frank,
Encouraging words that I would say we all need to listen and pay heed to. None of us know what is around the corner, but if we are listening to your ‘little voices’, I bet they are quietly warning us that something is definitely going which ain’t ‘healthy’, and we all need to prepare. So I for one want to thank you for the push Frank. We all need help to guide us down the right road, and you are doing just that. Now I need to get out there and get ready. Bless you Frank.
Yours aye
Tony
Frank:
Life is not a rose garden as we thought when we were kids. It often hits us with a curve ball we never saw coming. That is why it is the little things in life that are so very important; like telling your wife and kids you love them every day, as many times as you can.
I also believe no matter what negative crap life throws at us; there is always something positive we can learn from it. You may have been knocked down, but you grabbed the ropes, and pulled yourself up to continue to fight. That is what a SURVIVOR is. And Frank, you are a survivor. Instead of staying down for the count, you got back up and you found another and better way to live and survive; for you and your family.
You have nothing to be ashamed of. You are winning the battle life has thrown millions of Americans. You, my friend, are an inspiration. You have the spirit many have lost in our great country. The Spirit America was built on. It’s on the backs of people like you, that built this nation. Hold your head high at all times. You have nothing to be ashamed, be proud of your accomplishments.
If I told you my story, it is much worse than yours. This note is for you and the millions of Americans who still think our government isn’t corrupt, that they are lying when they state they have created so many jobs; and all while they are taking control of the largest companies in the United States. The government even owns your mortgage. Why else would it be giving $40 billion a month to buy mortgage securities? If they want, they can tell you to get out of your home, because the Government owns it.
I salute you Frank! You make me proud of the American Spirit; and it is still alive and growing! Thank you for being all you are capable of being! You are an inspiration!
this is so exciting seeing and hearing people with same idea my wife and i started self suffintcy I am sure not spelled rightwhen we were in our 30ties but got draged intoall the modern stuff we are now in our 70ties and are trying to get back on track thanks for all your information you are great!!
Been there-Done That, at least 4 times. You are right About it !00%.
Frank,
some times we hate to admit any problems in our lives, but when we acknowledge them, and turn to that right source for help, he uses us for the betterment of all mankind, that includes those who are on the tower watching for the signs of our day.
keep up the good work. There are no real mistakes in life, save the ones we refuse to learn by.
I have been there, have done that, I also have a great wife. And your right, now is the time to prepare for the loss of comfort if were not planning ours, and others rescue, because when the time comes, and your best friends are ill prepared, and their children are hungry? God forbid that we will praise him for blessing our family, and we forsake theirs. Your work, and the work of those who are with you may just be the difference between the loss of many, or millions. Sometimes a handful can make the difference. thank you Frank, and Michelle.
That’s a terrible thing to have happened! It seems in the past 3+ years, too many businesses are letting people go. Some do it so they can make more money for their company. Many have gone out of business. Many left the US as business taxes are cheaper elsewhere. The huge stimulus money the President gave to BANKS who gave bonuses to their CEO’s instead lowering interest rates on credit cards, the AUTOMOBILE companies and places like Cilindra (don’t know how to spell that), with there so called green energy (solar) business who conveniently went bankrupt just after they got that money, never to pay it all back. In the meantime, our energy prices keep going up, especially if one heats their house with oil.
I know how you felt when you lost your job. I lost my job after 24 years of service to the County this past Spring. Just before that, I lost my house & all my belongings, to a fire. I have nothing for money and am waiting for the house settlement so demolition can start. Won’t be able to replace my 4200 sq ft house. Will have to go smaller. No job and I can’t retire for another 2 more years. I’ve been so stressed out with the insurance company’s dealings and delay along with searching for a job, that I have not had the chance to look at what I bought from you.
But, we do the best we can and you are fortunate to finally have your own business and that you can make your solar system. I’m going to have to find someone to do it for me after my house gets built. Many best wishes to you.
I also live in the south and in a rural area. We raise chickens for eggs and meat, mostly meat. if you need some pointers I’ll be glad to help. YOU REALLY NEED TO BE PREPARED if you decide to do this.- Bill
Frank…thanks for your story. I appreciate hearing it. Our family really wants to be more self-reliant and we’ve taken several steps in that direction too. We have a part-time side business in Lawn Care Services (which hubby is very very good at as he’s done it since he was a teen), and I can veggies from our small garden every summer. We own chickens and sell eggs at a road side stand. Life is simple here. However, I wish we were even MORE self-efficient! Solar is my goal!
Thanks much for all your hard work in all of this!
Lana/Eric in MI
In 1990, we built an American Ingenuity dome house with all the passive solar features I could think of. We had the most energy efficient home in town. Even with a heat pump, our electricity bill never got much over $100/month. If we had stayed, I’m sure I would have used your information to go off grid with it. Instead we have move aboard a 37′ steel boat that we built. I already have most of the system I need to be energy independent, just need to add the solar cells and wind turbine. That is my project for next summer. Thanks for the inspiration.
hi iam bying a 1acer hores ranch in az soaler +windmill power all the way god bless every one
Yes, congratulations to did that, use your brain and your education to help family and your self.
I, in Europe have not a big land to do like you.
My father say “If you know to do something, do that today in advantage for you, your family and everybody else”.
Do`nt keep nothing secret, tomorrow, your experience will be to old to be used by somebody.
I have been self-employed for over 40+ years. Sometimes steak and sometimes peanut butter sandwiches. But God has always provide for our needs.
My wife and I now work from home. I am a small business consultant for LegalShield and mentor new small business owners.
To do anything on your own you have to really believe in it and hear from God as to your true purpose.
I have always believed that I will be taken care of if I focus on helping other people and my clients.
Frank,
My position at my previous employer was eliminated on friday, July 13th, after ten years. So I sympathize with you. I wish you the best.
I was very interested in the device the gentleman from Australia had built. This was a small electric motor to turn a system of pulleys to in turn spin a heavy generator. Hence little power in but generated allot of power out. Let me know. God Bless, Shawn
Frank, There are easier ways of doing some of this. Think electromechanical. It’s cheaper and most of the time more reliable with anything that has a control.I’ve been in this technology for thirty years or more and you’re on the right track. Surplus houses are full of cheap stuff that cost someone else lots of money. KEEP IT UP, you’ll be glad you did. And so will a lot of other people.
Thanks,Daniel
I know what you’re talking about!! My husband used to be a truck driver, moving mobile homes, and I did
the escorting for 5 years.He is now 83, nearly completely deaf, has beginning Alzheimers, and we live on SS of $1000 a month. We’ve also been helping our two granddaughters go through college. One gradu-ated with an Internet Technology degree and can’t find work other than Walmart. They lived with us for two years and I had to help them survive. The other one quit part way through and is working at Home Depot. I had saved every cent I could while we worked, and had a good nest egg set aside. But we have been hit with higher taxes, electricity, and everything else. Our son was in the Marines for 3 years and then a sur-veyor for about 20, but he no longer can find work. We also raised chickens, and had gardens, until the moving business kept us away to much. And the power company here in Fl. has upped their charges so they can build their new plant, and after two years they now say they need more. For a while I had a ceramics shop, but didn’t make much as we’re out in the country. And as we got older, I found out I had a heart problem, then I fell, got spinal problems, and after 2 more falls I now have to use a walker most of the time. So after all this rambling, I just wanted to let you know you are not the only ones in tough shape. We get by, love the Lord and each other, and I do the best I can. I have been doing all the taking care of expenses since we got married 57 years ago. And I did fairly well, but we certainly aren’t rich by a lo-o-n-g ways! Thanks for letting me get this off my chest, and I
thank you for the feed back.
God Bless You Sandy…
I have some ideas but I don’t know how to capitalize on them. I’ve tried taking two of ideas to two different companies but they just took my money and I still nothing to show for my efforts. When I was told that they were going to make a prototype. They did give me a provisional patent that has long expired. Does anyone know anything about that “Online Legal or Legal Online” whatever its called, can you get a patent from them and is it legal? Or any suggestions…
Young Man, you are one fellow who has come to understand WHO is responsible for WHAT. We are responsible TO others but not FOR others. When we see life from that perspective we become aware of our real responsibilities, ourselves and our families, and remain aware of those in need who cannot help themselves. Keep thinking that way and you will never fall into dependency. As a man sows, that is what he reaps.
P.S. You have put together some very useful information.
Blessings to you and your family,
From: “An Old COOT!”
Hi Frank I purchased Your Guide To Energy Independence awhile ago.
I have also experienced termination.
You did Good work and congratulations Frank.
TONY
IF THIS IS A TRUE ACCOUNT ( AND I HAVE NO REASON TO DOUBT IT) YOU HAVE DONE WHAT MAYBE 1% OF US WOULD HAVE DONE. MOST OF US ARE WIMPS & WOULD HAVE USED MOM & DAD, BR. OR SIS,HAND-OUTS. I COMMEND YOU FOR HAVIN TH STONES TO FACE IT & BEAT IT. THANKS FOR SHARIN.
This story is very similar to what my current plan is. We live in Canada and everything seems to cost more than anywhere else. Our electricity is not bad, but everything else is expensive.
We have our house for sale and plan to move to Denmark this year. We have purchased a small brick house of 96 sq meters on an acre in western Denmark. We will grow a large vegetable garden, put up windmills, and solar panels, use wood pellets to heat the house, and just live a simple and inexpensive life over there. ( I am from Denmark originally).
cheers to all
We are lucky enough to be retired, however a small business of repairing & servicing small engines, rototillers and mowers more as a hobby in order to donate older rebuilt units to those in need.
In 1998 when retirement time came things were fine but then the company I had worked for 27 years went bankrupt which affected the 401 K’s and the retirement somewhat.
so my small engine business gave us an added source of income if needed. I have already started training in another skill to bring in more income if the economy keeps going downhill and the dollar keeps loosing value.
I call it “accidently planning ahead” and now I am planning on being more independant by learning how to be less dependant on the power companies.
Hi I purchased Your Guide To Energy Independence awhile ago and i was very busy at the time and didn’t find out till recently that it is defective and doesn’t work. Can you help me with this problem?
Thanks
Donna
Of course, Donna. I’ll forward your info to customer service right now. You should hear back from them shortly. – Frank
Thanks Frank
Frank,
Thanks for sharing your close to the heart story. Sounds like you are family of faith in God. We have nothing to fear for the future unless we forget how God has led us in the past.
@ Cedric: Mistreatment by a corporation or government is a poor excuse to compromise one’s honesty, integrity and honor, by stealing cable and satellite signals. Such actions speak to ones character. Why not rip off Frank’s plans (just call it pirating), modify slightly or paraphrase and sell them on-line, as your own? It’s just plain WRONG, pard, and it’s illegal in all 50 states. You are not becoming self-sufficient, as long as you “pirate” the product of the labor of others.
Thanks to all who share. God has Blessed me Greatly. With 5 children, 8 grandchildren and 4 great grandchildren to date. In 1982 we finished our energy effecient Concrete and foam Dome Home. Cut our energy bills by 50%. When the Govt. saved GM and the banks they stole $50,000 from our retirement investments, costing us about $300. a month till those bonds were paid off. Our
Ford bonds made every interest payment and all of the original cost. Then last year our farm including Home was struck be a tornado, left us alive and the Dome standing but not livable. David Lowery or others might want information on Dome homes.
Frank,
You have accomplished what a lot of people in this country only dream about.
So congratulations.
We need people like you who fight and persevere to make their life successful.
Keep up the good work!
Frank – went through the same thing back in 2008; know exactly what you went through and admire and thank you for building power4patriots…I now live my life with a back up plan and am working to live off the grid…it is good that we have folks like you to teach us the important steps of getting away from Corporate America. God Bless you and your family. m
Everything is crashing Economically… USA, Europe, and Canada is on the way…
Learn to rely on yourself, and your family members…work as a team…Thanks Frank!
I ordered Power 4 Patriots a few months ago. Within the next few weeks I will finally have the resources to get started on becoming more energy independent. I also have acquired the small lot next to our home where my family and I will be planting a sizable garden. It’s good not to be dependent on the government, but we shouldn’t be dependent on corporations either. I would like to be able to say that if there were an energy crisis or serious food shortage I would still be able to take care of my family. It will take some time and effort to get to that point. But it’s a goal worth pursuing. Americans need to learn to become self-reliant once again.
Congratulations, I started to get rid of the extra crap that I really do not use anymore or need. I have cut my electric bill by 15%. And have not missed a thing.
Thanks again for you story.
Sorry to hear the bad news about the job. But you know what, I believe in God, and that he gave you this opportunity to better yourself and your family. “When one door closes, anotheer one always opens!”
I hope some day to be on my own power also. My issue is to convince my wife first.
God Bless
I want to become energy independant and develope the capibility to help my daughter build a self sufficent home in the next two years. Then turn my attention to the rest of my family and their homes. Our capabilities and tallents are no good hidden under the bushel. Just Do It!!
Hi Frank
I ordered your Power4patriots yesterday and I hope I can make it work. My 72 yar young wifev is confined to a hospital bed at home and we are on a fixed income. Now we have found a home bsed business
Bob Davis
I am still young ,only 45, and had a stroke. Now that I am unable to drive anymore I am going to take my hobby interest in solar and wind to the next level. We will see how it turns out. As a wise man once told me ” a set back in life opens other doors. We just have tostep through them.”
I too have a sad tale to tell about injustice, betrayal and humiliation from the corporate world, but after readng all the other comments, there is no need for me to relate mine. I just feel sorrow for all of us who worked the best days of ours lives for absolutely nothing! I just wish I could have used my better days to have gotten more self reliant. Now I don’t have the means to do so in a more reliable way. I am scrounging for parts for a wind turbine. And the generator or Hub in the P4P video is impossible to find. Not even on their site. I am beginning to wonder if Frank Bates even exhist! You can’t contact him in any way. Just try it!
Dear Frank, Just got my Package in the mail and I am so glad to read everyone’s comments. I was let go from my job of 10 years and tried for almost a year to find work with no luck. I took a class to teach Qigong and also teach meditation. business is slow building but I really believe in what I’m teaching so I stay positive. I am now looking into being more self sufficient and look forward to working with your information. Also communicating with everyone here. What a nice community of supportiveness.
Frank,
Can you tell me if I can power seed warming mats with a solar panel?
Thanks
Susan
Being on the south end of life and therefore retired and on a fixed income, inflation has become our worst enemy. When I saw the first plug for Power4Patriots I deliberated for a while before buying (there are so many scams out there, you know.) But once I downloaded the books it became obvious this was the best spent $27 of my life. Just the intro is worth the price. I’ve already placed an order for 125 solar cells and will enjoy building the panel. More power to you for your ambition and self-reliance. Here’s a quote some readers might get inspiration from: “Feeling insecure is good for you. It forces you to do something better: Use all your talents.” Helen Gurley Brown.
Dear Frank,
I can appreciate all that you and your family went through. I would love to be more self-reliant. I live in a condo, and I am not sure i can do a lot to change my energy resources, due to condo policies. I still want to learn, so when I can get a house I can do these things. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Carolynn
I was thinking about those folks who could not afford to get out into the county and go off the grid… maybe an RV rigged up with a portable solar generator… gas stove and gas/or generator refrigerator… maybe traveling with the good weather so as to save on energy. It beats living under a pine tree and fighting a squirrel off for the pine nuts. Seems there is to much focus on survivalist mentality and not enough on practical long term and comfortable surviving. You can get used RVS for very cheap… just rig it up with a little solar… stock up on food, water and propane… and find someone who wouldn’t mind you living on their country land in exchange for you helping them grow food, tend the chickens or whatever else needs to be done. It beats sitting on a pine cone… under a pine tree… all by your self thinking… am I the only one… ooh I just finished my last can of beans :/ We need to be more long term survivalist thinking.
Retirement is only 7.5 months away. More affordable is good, but not willing to give up any quality of life. We’ll see solar? Just plan to start with the water heater. Wish everyone luck and hope if I have questions I get a real person. lol
rick
Thanks for sharing your story. I too was affected by Obama’s Recovery. I owned my own small business in Real Estate but I had to shut the door because more was going into running the company with little to no income. I gave all my agents plenty of time to find another RE company before closing my company. I am now in my 60’s and draw minimum retirement from the National Guard, but I feel that things are not getting any better, and that I need to take control of my retirement years. I am currently fixing up the house to sell, and I plan on moving away from the metro area into the country and acquire some land. My plans are to start a home built around solar and wind power with limited use of the utility companies. I currently do a garden, but plan to also hunt & fish. The wife just doesn’t want me to get too far away from civiliation. What state are you currently living in?
My wife & I have been forced to downsize due to a lay-off, which upsized our living. We’re living a more enjoyable and rewarding self sufficient lifestyle that’s left us more prepared as well for the coming economic collapse. We have a frugal solar energy system, rainwater collection system, waterless toilet compost system and a grey water system for plants. We grow vegetables, fruit and enjoy fresh eggs from our chickens.
I guess that this shows the need for unions, huh?
If you can find a way to get by with out using local
infrastructure, you’ll save money and be better off
WHEN a crisis hits. Jobs keep people in a slave mode.
I never heard of anyone becoming rich because they had
a job. But keeping money in you own pocket will help.
I am planning to go off grid as soon as I can.
I have already moved out of the city, and raising my own
food. I have a deep well and a hand pump,so no
problem with water. We MUST stand up and take
care of ourselves because the government will over loaded.
Hello Frank,
yes your story is familiar to mine. We were all called to the Ramada Hotel Banquet Hall & told to accept half what were earning. A week to respond. Not to return to work, or we would be charged with Tresspassing. To make an appointment with Security to come get our belongings. Yes it felt like a slap in the Face ! However I am surviving on the essentials.
We have reduced our phone bill substantially by getting Magic Jack at $65.00 for 5 years.
Our Entertainment is a Pirated Satellite Dish Signal that we purchased the Receiver ( K Box) for $150.00 and avoid paying $70.00 to & $120.00 monthly Cable fee. Now3 if there is anyone out there that can help with a Pirated Satellite Internet Signal; that would be nice.
Frank, with your help, I hope I can reduce my Electric bill.
Thanking you,
Cedric
I too was “walked out the door” after 29 years with a large international Oil Co. Only difference being that they talked me into training my replacement and continuing my job for two weeks after the layoff. The day before my last day, I was in the field taking 15 to 20 potential buyers of old gas plants and eqip around the whole NW part of the state…what a joke..They couldn’t believe me when I told them of my circumstances….the nerve of those pricks..My wife and I already had home business so it wasn’t that great of a shock..but you got to learn that the only people you can count on is yourself..If an emp or natural disaster happens, most people simply won’t make it long, because someone has always taken care of them, be it the government or family.
I feel as though we are standing over an abyss that is about to swallow us up. If we don’t do something to help ourseves, our future looks very dire. We have no choice but to help ourselves.
We will take your advice to start small. Small steps!!! Thank you for the inspiration.
recieved a cd or dvd from you but it dont work shows disk error I live in wv in the mountains Im in a holler where sunshine is limited and little wind mostly interested in any thing i could put in the creek that when its up than would make power
Larry,
I’m sorry your Power4Patriots CD was damaged in shipping. I have forwarded your issue to customer service and you should receive a replacement CD shortly. Frank
you have a creek ,if it doesn’t run dry, build a paddel wheel generator.
We closed 6 small food restaurants and cut way back due to Obama’s ‘recovery’. We extreme coupon now and have cut our expenses by 70%. I really don’t care about global warming or tree-hugging, but I do want afffordable power that doesn’t cut out when the wind blows. I have a second home that is many miles from grid power, just running power to it would cost over $30,000, so it was my first priority location to get solar, wind, and micro-hydro. Now we are considering building a new primary residence and making it totally off-grid, have an orchard, gardens, trout ponds, etc. Please consider adding Micro Hydro to your format, many mountainous areas have surprisingly good water flow year round and could benefit. The only info in town is a video from the 90’s in the college town library.
Thanks for sharing your story. I have also experienced termination. It serves as a great wake up call to what your real priorities are, faith, family, friends. I am in my 4th year of work from home
and it has been rewarding yet challenging. Thats where faith comes to shine. I am more free from sweating the small stuff and able to do things to increase self reliance which makes more and more sense every day.
Thanks for your services
Dave